The cost of simply retrieving an answer from the Web is infinitely smaller than the cost of generating a new one.
Great interview with Sasha Luccioni from Huggingface on all the ways that using generative AI for everything is both a) hugely costly compared to existing methods, and b) insane.
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01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 20 pts · 2y
But bill gates says not to worry about it, because ai will solve the climate disaster it's creating. -_-
Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y
He was also claiming AI would destroy us a few years ago. (Not talking about climate, skynet style)
Side note: listening to him is as bad as listening to a celebrity.
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 2y
Maybe worse, since society considers him a SME on subjects he isn't, she they listen to his word as though it's coming from an actual SME.
Ilandar@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 2y
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
All we gotta do is ask chatgpt how to fix it. Ezpz
Etterra@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Tech could save us, but not AI. The tech that could isn't profitable enough to do so, though, so it's not happening. And it's not like oil corp. shareholders & execs are gonna accept a pay cut so that their subsidies could be redirected to more ecologically sustainable tech. Nope, we live in capitalist hell. At least, until we don't.
dgerard@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y
I'm cheered that we now have so much wind and solar wanting to come online that it's straining grid interconnects so countries (US and NL for example) suddenly have to spend a bundle on infra so that the power can get across continents to where it's needed
this is a very cool problem to have: oh no! we have too much new clean energy!
it may not be sufficient, but it's an excellent start
Mango@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Not putting awnings on the West windows of every window in America is a disaster!
Eheran@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
This guy technology connects.
0laura@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
generating images using ai barely uses any energy.
BlackLaZoR@kbin.run · -37 pts · 2y
Nope it isn't. You blame AI companies for pollution they didn't generate. Blame the energy sector.
Why the hell aren't we using mix of nuclear and renewables in this day and age is beyond me
froztbyte@awful.systems · 37 pts · 2y
holy shit your post history of full of takes this bad, that's an impressive track record of dim. must be exhausting
self@awful.systems · 29 pts · 2y
oh wow there’s some literal “it’s not a nazi unless it’s an old dead German” shit in there, they’re that kind of fash debatebro
mawhrin@awful.systems · 15 pts · 2y
yeah, they don't teach much about fascist atrocities in ethiopia, and then people feel compelled to defend the good name of the boys in the black shirts because the poor dupes didn't build the concentration camps – just were allied to the builders.
froztbyte@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y
yeah sorry I kinda undersold it
thank fuck they came out swinging
BlackLaZoR@kbin.run · -27 pts · 2y
And yet, my opponents in discussion failed to provide good counterarguments. You aren't going to convince me of anything by hating my post history
ebu@awful.systems · 32 pts · 2y
good gods you're going to be the most insufferable kind of person, aren't you
this was a bit of a given
bet you also think the climate cost of cryptocurrency is also a failing of the energy sector to deliver clean power to the innocent sweet little industrial-scale mining tycoons, don't you
fasterandworse@awful.systems · 24 pts · 2y
don't talk about providing good counterarguments, please
froztbyte@awful.systems · 13 pts · 2y
see, because they can't provide their own, talking about good arguments is all they have left
fasterandworse@awful.systems · 15 pts · 2y
I one-up your well-sourced article with a "nope it isn't", your move.
BlackLaZoR@kbin.run · -18 pts · 2y
What, you want to tell me I'm somehow obligated to exactly know where and how every service I use is produced?
Talk about a horrible take.
mawhrin@awful.systems · 26 pts · 2y
it's not “hating your post history”, it's just realisation that you're a shitty debatelord and talking to you is waste of time.
froztbyte@awful.systems · 12 pts · 2y
it has been
[0]days since I got accused of having emotions about a driveby posterhow rude
(e: not that you did it ofc, flere, but ykwim)
BlackLaZoR@kbin.run · -16 pts · 2y
And yet you're talking to me... To prove some point perhaps? Feel free to ignore or block me if you don't like my posts.
self@awful.systems · 19 pts · 2y
we can do better than block your shitty posts
mawhrin@awful.systems · 11 pts · 2y
nie, ja tylko ostrzegam, że wylecisz stąd na kopach, misiu kolorowy. lepiej ci będzie na wykopie.
pyrex@awful.systems · 7 pts · 2y
I'M A BAT
I'M GAY
lmaydev@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
Since we aren't using those it is in fact a climate disaster currently and they know that.
Assuming you want to ground your argument in our reality.
BlackLaZoR@kbin.run · -4 pts · 2y
Some energy sources are and some arent polluting. Do you suggest I should audit every single one of these companies on how they power stuff?
I don't even know if development of AI is productive or not, maybe it just consumes electricity, or maybe in the future AI will build energy sources that will sustain humanity for ever.