https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/33993
"I can only say thank you for saving my life," - a captured Russian conscript who blew himself up with a grenade in order not to surrender has confirmed that in Russia, soldiers are programmed to commit suicide, being told about the long and painful torture in captivity.
Fyodor, a conscript from St. Petersburg, told a UNIAN journalist how he blew himself up together with a comrade when the Armed Forces of Ukraine approached his position in Russia's Kursk region.
"I took out a grenade. He [his comrade] said, "Let's do it." We hugged each other, threw it on the ground and said some last warm words to each other. The comrade also has a leg wound. At that point, I had already realized three times that I was closer to death. We were afraid to surrender, we didn't know what would happen here. We were afraid that there would be long and painful torture. But considering how it is in reality now, I can only say thank you for saving my life and curing me," he said.
According to Fyodor, he was given first aid by the Ukrainian military. They shared water and cigarettes with the prisoners and brought medicine to the wounded from other dugouts.
📹: Ukrainian Independent Information Agency of News
19 Comments
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 121 pts · 2y
With how awful this war is, it’s nice to see common human decency and gratitude on display for a change.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 100 pts · 2y
dactylotheca@suppo.fi · 37 pts · 2y
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 26 pts · 2y
It's a mental oroboros of torture. And being broken out of that loop does some weird shit to your brain
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip · -10 pts · 2y
its be normal behavior if it was an intelligence officer, not some no name conscript who probably knows jack shit about whats really happening.
djsoren19@yiffit.net · 26 pts · 2y
It's really only the Russian military who has been awful, and it's almost tragic how much Putin and Russia's military doctrine have destroyed these kids' minds. They turned children into monsters, then justifed their actions by claiming the enemy is just as monstrous. Meanwhile, all of us outside Russia can't even imagine why a conscript wouldn't want to surrender to the Ukrainians, who have consistently shown themselves to be excellent people who are willing to care for these conscripts even despite some of the things they've done.
argv_minus_one@mstdn.party · 56 pts · 2y
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 2y
Back then it was almost impossible for the average Japanese person to get news not controlled by the Japanese government, but is Putin's control over the Russian internet so effective that Russians also have no information that he doesn't control?
PugJesus@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 2y
It's not about control, it's about distrust. Totalitarian cacophony. Putin doesn't need to make Russians trust their own media; he only needs to convince them that ALL media, everywhere, lies, all the time. The weaponization of cynicism in service to fascism.
dactylotheca@suppo.fi · 26 pts · 2y
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 2y
More like the "Lying Press"
dactylotheca@suppo.fi · 6 pts · 2y
officermike@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
He doesn't need to have watertight censorship of outside sources to have meaningful control. The USA has relatively little censorship and we still have a sizable population that are happy to accept any old bullshit as fact, without any impetus to question or validate it.
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 2y
AFAIK it's more of a nudge-theoretic information bubble. Most people will just listen to the news put right in front of them. Russian language independent outlets targeted at Russia exist, but obviously are facing an uphill battle to distribute their stuff there, and if they do get through there's no way for a person to know they're not just a different kind of propaganda. Plus, the version Russian media tells is much more flattering to you, a Russian.
If you're the kind of person who's ends up on Lemmy, you may be willing to learn English and expose yourself to the outside world, however ugly what you find is. Most people are not that savvy, though.
Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 2y
It's not total control, but it's so highly laced in propoganda and unreliable that Russians don't trust western media either, assuming it's the same. It's just like how politics in russia is something that's not for normal people so no one pays any interest in it.
meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 2y
A lot of people don’t get their news from the internet. Especially the older generations. The same generation that send young men to die in pointless wars.
argv_minus_one@mstdn.party · 2 pts · 2y
@ArbitraryValue
Most social media is blocked in Russia, if I'm not mistaken, so yeah, probably.
Which is sad. Nothing good ever comes of leaders stopping their people from speaking freely with foreigners.
That, by the way, is why Chat Control, KOSA, and similar legislation must be stopped. It's the same damn thing as Russian and Chinese censorship, with the same foul purpose.
yokonzo@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 2y
Wait, how exactly did they survive the grenade? Just dumb luck?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 15 pts · 2y
If blood is reaching your brain the human body is pretty resilient.
If a trauma patient can make it to a modern hospital while still alive they're probably going to keep them alive.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y
tl;dr yes, dumb luck
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
It sounds like they were standing, dropped the grenade at their feet, and were hugging each other. The hug would possibly reduce some damage to center mass, and it sounds like both have injuries to the legs. If the grenade rolled away that would increase survivability. It also sounds like the interviewee took the brunt of the damage.
But don't listen to me, the closest I've come to a grenade is a Chipotle burrito with bad arvo
djsoren19@yiffit.net · 8 pts · 2y
Well it was presumably a Russian made grenade, maybe it didn't have any fragmentation due to cost cuts. also presumably the Ukrainians were quick to find the two and treat them before they died to blood loss.
Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 2y
Ah, suicide by the long route, allowing the Russian soldier to be a drain on the state with emphysema. Good long term thinking.
x00z@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
Is this how you "kill them with kindness"? Danm, I'm not crying,.. you're crying!