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c/cfb · by g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world · 1y

c/cfb Week 7 Poll

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfddEB6vxcxfJVhO-f3l1F0g8Z_Q-_TTaa9MDSuEs8KDSrQrA/viewform?usp=sf_link

This might be the most excited I've ever been for our community poll, this will be up through Wednesday and I'll post results on Thursday

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olmec@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y (2 replies)
  1. Texas
  2. Ohio State
  3. Oregon
  4. Penn State
  5. Miami
  6. Georgia
  7. Iowa State
  8. BYU
  9. Alabama
  10. Boise State
  11. Clemson
  12. Ole Miss
  13. Tennessee
  14. Missouri
  15. Utah
  16. Texas A&M
  17. LSU
  18. Oklahoma
  19. Notre Dame
  20. Indiana
  21. Kansas State
  22. Pitt
  23. Army
  24. Navy
  25. Liberty

A quick overview of my methodology. I’m sure you can find contradictions, but I do try to stick to this.

At this point in the season, I try to make the ranking 25% how good I think the team actually is, and 75% what the resume says. As we go on, the resume gets more bias.

A few principles that I try to apply.

  1. If you are 5-0 or better, I’ll put you in. It is hard enough to get there, that even with an easier schedule, it should get you ranked. I do this for 2 reasons. First, I want to reward winning. Second, if greater 6 teams never get ranked despite what they do on the field, why bother to say they are apart of the league? Even if all these greater 6 drop a game, I’ll still try to put one or two of them up there, if I can justify it.
  2. I try to use a blind resume, where you consider the resume’s content regardless of the name. The biggest effect that this has is that I effectively ignore head to head. You can look at my poll, and complain that I ranked Georgia above Alabama, and cry afoul that Alabama beat Georgia, and should be ahead. I don’t care, because Georgia has a better resume than Alabama. You can make the same complaint against my Texas A&M/Notre Dame ranking. It doesn’t change my results.
  3. I value bad losses more than I do good wins. Again, going with Alabama and Georgia, I put more weight on the fact that Alabama lost to Vanderbilt, then I do that Alabama beat Georgia. I value reliability. If you can’t show up for the “easy wins”, then I will punish you much more than I will reward you for showing up for the big games.
ToasterOverlord@fanaticus.social · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I like your reasoning and appreciate the explanation, so please don't interpret this comment as me taking issue with your ballot. I am curious about Missouri at 14 and LSU at 17 though. What on their resumes pushes them up that high, especially considering the bad losses factor? By your logic, it seems like some of the undefeated teams should be ahead of them (especially Indiana given that they have a common opponent with LSU and beat them much more decisively). SMU's absence feels conspicuous also when you have BYU as high as 8.

olmec@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y

No, please poke holes in my poll. I spend time on it, but this is the first real year I have actually put pen to paper.

For LSU and Missouri, the cop out answer is that is the 25% of the ballot I give to supposed team quality. Realistically, it shouldn't have that big of an effect though. Those are 2 teams that, after looking at their schedule just now, I was surprised how weak all their opponents were . I feel a bit bad, because using my metrics, they should be lower. Maybe 3-5 spots each, some where in that range. The good news is, at least LSU will have a chance to make a point this weekend against Ole Miss. That game will make a much bigger difference than me re-evaluating.

Indiana I still feel fine on. Their schedule hasn't been impressive. I think the Nebraska game in 2 weeks is the first real challenge they will face. If they perform well, they will see a jump.

SMU was on the short list to get ranked, but with my rule of ranking 5-0 teams, they got cut. Kansas state is the lowest ranked one loss team in my ranking, and I would take them over SMU.

Mayonnaise@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Alright, you guys win, I'll take the time to actually put something together. Ended up playing it pretty safe: ::: spoiler Top 25

  1. Ohio State
  2. Texas
  3. Oregon
  4. Penn State
  5. Miami (FL)
  6. Alabama
  7. Georgia
  8. Tennessee
  9. Ole Miss
  10. Iowa State
  11. Clemson
  12. LSU
  13. BYU
  14. Oklahoma
  15. Texas A&M
  16. Boise State
  17. Kansas State
  18. Missouri
  19. Notre Dame
  20. Utah
  21. Indiana
  22. Pittsburgh
  23. Illinois
  24. SMU
  25. Texas Tech :::

I tried throwing together a computer poll, but it's pretty rudimentary and over-favors teams that have played more games (and won those extra grames):

::: spoiler Bad Computer Top 25

  1. Indiana
  2. Miami (FL)
  3. Ohio State
  4. Texas
  5. Oregon
  6. Penn State
  7. Pittsburgh
  8. BYU
  9. Iowa State
  10. Texas A&M
  11. Navy
  12. Texas Tech
  13. Ole Miss
  14. Army
  15. Nebraska
  16. SMU
  17. Duke
  18. Syracuse
  19. LSU
  20. Virginia
  21. Colorado
  22. Clemson
  23. Arizona State
  24. Alabama
  25. Missouri
  26. Illinois
  27. Washington
  28. North Texas
  29. Rutgers
  30. Georgia
  31. Utah
  32. Kansas State
  33. Memphis
  34. Tennessee
  35. Oklahoma :::
g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Indiana #1? Subscribe

milkisklim@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y

Taking all bets on how high Vandy gets ranked.

1:1000 1st

1:100 2 to 9th

1:50 10 to 15th

1:25 16 to 20th

1:5 21st to 25th

1:2 Not ranked but receives Votes.

Note: the bank and casino of Milkisklim will only pay out only in Beamer Bucks which is valued at nothing because that's how much preparation SC did for this week.

::: spoiler my rankings Texas

Ohio State

ole Miss

Georgia

Oregon

Penn State

Miami FL

potato institute of Pickens county

Iowa State

LSU

Texas am

vandy

Alabama

Mizzou

Southern Cal

Boise State

Arkansas

Tennessee

Michigan

Washington

navy

army

SMU

California

Louisville :::

ToasterOverlord@fanaticus.social · 3 pts · 1y

My ballot (computer poll). It no longer thinks of Texas as a league of their own, as an Ohio State University is closing the gap due to Texas being on bye last week (thank goodness for that). Everyone's darling Vanderbilt doesn't crack the top 25 but it does have the biggest movement, rising 42 places.

Also, when I was ranking Sam Houston (never thought I'd say that) it made me think of other newcomers to FBS. Looks like Kennesaw State is not listed in the dropdowns for this poll.

::: spoiler Full ranking:

Rank Change Team Record Points
1 - Texas 5-0 387
2 +2 Ohio State 5-0 372
3 +2 Ole Miss 5-1 368
4 -1 Alabama 4-1 356
5 +2 Indiana 6-0 352
6 - Miami (FL) 6-0 342
7 +27 Texas A&M 5-1 326
8 +3 Penn State 5-0 323
T9 -7 Notre Dame 4-1 321
T9 +7 Virginia Tech 3-3 321
11 +4 SMU 5-1 314
12 +2 Nebraska 5-1 309
T13 -1 Tennessee 4-1 305
T13 +8 Clemson 4-1 305
15 -2 USC 3-2 303
16 +18 Arkansas 4-2 302
17 +14 Washington 4-2 299
18 +4 Georgia Tech 4-2 292
19 +25 Tulane 4-2 291
20 -4 Michigan 4-2 288
21 -3 Boston College 4-2 286
T22 +18 Iowa State 5-0 282
T22 +7 Sam Houston 5-1 282
24 +16 Georgia 4-1 278
25 -17 Kentucky 3-2 277
26 +21 Minnesota 3-3 276
27 -18 BYU 5-0 275
28 +10 Texas Tech 5-1 272
29 -19 Oklahoma 4-1 270
30 -1 Duke 5-1 267
T31 +24 Army 5-0 264
T31 +9 Arizona State 4-1 264
33 -1 UNLV 4-1 262
34 +18 Oregon 5-0 261
T35 -3 JMU 4-1 257
T35 +5 Connecticut 4-2 257
T35 -12 South Carolina 3-2 257
38 +42 Vanderbilt 3-2 255
39 -3 TCU 3-3 251
40 +17 Pittsburgh 5-0 248
41 +23 Navy 5-0 243
42 +26 Houston 2-4 240
T43 -24 Cincinnati 3-2 237
T43 -5 Oklahoma State 3-3 237
T45 -26 LSU 4-1 236
T45 - Baylor 2-4 236
T47 +26 Boise State 4-1 234
T47 +3 North Carolina 3-3 234
T47 +10 Kansas 1-5 234
50 -2 Auburn 2-4 233
T51 -28 Utah 4-1 231
T51 -28 Colorado 4-1 231
T53 +4 Rutgers 4-1 230
T53 -30 Maryland 3-2 230
T53 +2 Louisville 3-2 230
T53 +8 Northern Illinois 3-2 230
57 -30 Kansas State 4-1 229
58 -30 Illinois 4-1 228
59 +7 Toledo 4-1 225
T60 +1 Arizona 3-2 224
T60 -8 Florida State 1-5 224
62 +15 Texas State 3-2 221
T63 +14 Syracuse 4-1 220
T63 +9 California 3-2 220
65 +31 West Virginia 3-2 219
66 +17 Virginia 4-1 215
67 +31 Jacksonville State 2-3 214
68 -16 Missouri 4-1 213
T69 -33 Memphis 4-1 212
T69 -5 Michigan State 3-3 212
T71 +8 Louisiana 4-1 211
T71 +2 South Alabama 2-4 211
73 +41 Wisconsin 3-2 209
74 -14 Iowa 3-2 208
75 -6 Northwestern 2-3 207
76 +18 Florida 3-2 205
77 -32 Washington State 4-1 203
78 -3 Nevada 2-4 202
T79 +4 San Jose State 4-1 198
T79 +8 Coastal Carolina 4-1 198
81 +4 UCF 3-2 197
T82 -33 Eastern Michigan 4-1 195
T82 +7 Oregon State 4-1 195
T82 -16 ECU 3-3 195
85 -34 UNT 4-1 193
86 +1 Old Dominion 1-4 189
87 +11 Bowling Green 2-3 188
T88 +9 NC State 3-3 186
T88 +21 Charlotte 3-3 186
90 - Miami (OH) 1-4 184
91 -30 Fresno State 3-2 180
T92 -22 Western Kentucky 3-2 173
T92 -22 FIU 2-3 173
94 +20 Wake Forest 2-3 171
95 -3 Troy 1-5 168
96 +17 Marshall 3-2 166
T97 -22 Ohio 3-2 163
T97 +8 UCLA 1-4 163
99 +2 Stanford 2-3 162
T100 +10 UL Monroe 4-1 161
T100 +6 Temple 1-5 161
102 -21 Liberty 4-0 156
T103 -22 Georgia Southern 3-2 155
T103 +4 Massachusetts 1-5 155
T105 -18 Buffalo 3-2 152
T105 -19 FAU 2-3 152
107 +10 San Diego State 2-3 151
108 -15 Mississippi State 1-4 144
T109 -14 Central Michigan 3-2 143
T109 +10 Arkansas State 3-2 143
111 +9 Hawaii 2-3 141
112 -12 New Mexico 1-4 139
113 +10 Western Michigan 2-3 137
114 -10 Tulsa 2-4 134
115 -13 USF 2-3 133
T116 +7 Colorado State 2-3 129
T116 -13 Rice 1-4 129
118 -11 Louisiana Tech 1-3 124
T119 -8 Wyoming 1-4 117
T119 +3 Air Force 1-4 117
121 -9 Georgia State 2-2 115
T122 -8 UTSA 2-3 113
T122 +3 UTEP 0-5 113
124 +7 Akron 1-5 110
T125 +4 Appalachian State 2-3 105
T125 -7 New Mexico State 1-4 105
T127 -7 UAB 1-4 100
T127 +5 Southern Mississippi 1-4 100
129 -1 Utah State 1-4 97
130 +4 Ball State 1-4 94
131 -5 Kennesaw State 0-5 92
132 -3 Purdue 1-4 85
133 -6 Middle Tennessee 1-4 81
134 -1 Kent State 0-5 61
anhydrous@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Texas takes back the #1 spot after the Vandyset. Vandy back in the rankings. Rutgers takes #24

::: spoiler ballot 1. Texas 2. Penn State 3. BYU 4. Oregon 5. Miami 6. Ohio State 7. Iowa State 8. Alabama 9. Pittsburgh 10. Indiana 11. Georgia 12. Tennessee 13. Texas Tech 14. Clemson 15. Illinois 16. SMU 17. LSU 18. Notre Dame 19. Vanderbilt 20. Texas A&M 21. Oklahoma 22. Missouri 23. Nebraska 24. Rutgers 25. Washington 26. Ole Miss :::

g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (4 replies)

My poll this week, I will take questions on everything except Tennessee's ranking:

  1. Texas
  2. Ohio State
  3. Oregon
  4. Penn State
  5. Georgia
  6. Kentucky
  7. LSU
  8. Tennessee
  9. Miami (FL)
  10. Clemson
  11. Ole Miss
  12. Notre Dame
  13. Iowa State
  14. alabama
  15. Michigan
  16. Oklahoma
  17. Nebraska
  18. UNLV
  19. Army
  20. Indiana
  21. Boise State
  22. BYU
  23. Navy
  24. Illinois
  25. SMU
Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Arkansas should be ranked. It's not a question, just a statement.

olmec@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

OK, where is your poll ranking them?

Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

Made one just for you and submitted it.

1 tOSU 5-0
2 Texas 5-0
3 Penn 5-0
4 Oregon 5-0
5 Georgia 4-1
6 Miami 6-0
7 Bama 4-1
8 Iowa St. 5-0
9 UT 4-1
10 Ole Miss 5-1
11 BYU 5-0
12 Indiana 6-0
13 AtM 5-1
14 Notre Dame 4-1
15 Clemson 4-1
16 Boise St 4-1
17 Louisiana St. 4-1
18 Utah 4-1
19 Pitt 5-0
20 OU 4-1
21 Arkansas 4-2
22 Vanderbilt 4-2
23 Illinois 4-1
24 Kansas St. 4-1
25 Mizzou 4-1

g0d0fm15ch13f@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

I mean they only beat Tennessee, and Tennessee ain't played nobody pawwwwlllll

WVbrU@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
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