Ubuntu 25.04 "Plucky Puffin" Development Opens - Defaulting To -O3 Optimizations

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Ubuntu-25.04-Plucky-Puffin

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drspod@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 1y (5 replies)

Gentoo users in shambles

zagaberoo@sopuli.xyz · 19 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Bah, they'll never have my precious -march=native!

boonhet@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

I doubt they want my fun and safe math optimizations either tbh

Presi300@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (2 replies)
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eldavi@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

too fancy for -O2? lol

Presi300@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
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ryannathans@aussie.zone · -1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

How do they avoid the subsequent bugs O3 tends to produce?

communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · 10 pts · 1y

They don't.

fossphi@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

First time I'm hearing of this. Do you have some more details?

GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Not like Ubuntu works very well on old hardware but hopefully O2 support will still be there. Many people need it.

ozymandias117@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y (3 replies)

-O2 vs -O3 adds -fgcse-after-reload -fipa-cp-clone -floop-interchange -floop-unroll-and-jam -fpeel-loops -fpredictive-commoning -fsplit-loops -fsplit-paths -ftree-loop-distribution -ftree-partial-pre -funswitch-loops -fvect-cost-model=dynamic -fversion-loops-for-strides

I don't think any of these optimizations require more modern hardware?

themoken@startrek.website · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Right. GCC -f optimizations are basically like "how hard are we going to try to be clever" and are, I believe, orthogonal to the actual instructions used. Machine dependent args start with -m, like -march or -mavx etc.

ozymandias117@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

I was reasonably certain, but left it open in case OP knew of some edge case where flags that are intended to be machine independent caused bugs on different architectures

lengau@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y

Yeah, adding a separate microarchitecture like amd64v3 would be a separate item. They might be able to do that with amd64v3 overlay repos that only contain packages that most benefit from the newer microarchitecture.

scratchandgame@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 1y

op-ti-mize [verb (trans.)]* … (gcc) to modify executable code so that it fails more quickly.