c/sneerclub · by dgerard@awful.systems · 1y

your Bayesian yacht is an outlier adn should not be counted

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/31/world/europe/bayesian-yacht-sinking-italy.html

34 points · 26 comments · view on lemmy.world

26 Comments

sc_griffith@awful.systems · 23 pts · 1y (6 replies)

between this and the submersible guy I'm starting to think we need more billionaires on the ocean. maybe peter thiel is onto something

AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 14 pts · 1y

Poseidon is said to prefer Australian Prime Ministers as sacrifices, but maybe he’ll accept a few techbros.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 8 pts · 1y (4 replies)

The orcas were trying to send us this message for a while now

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 11 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Sadly the orcas only attack smaller sailboats, not the mega yachts. They are not the anti billionaire allies.

V0ldek@awful.systems · 13 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Maybe if we funded them better they'd be able to tackle larger projects.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 13 pts · 1y

Think it is just a skill issue, they need to git gud.

Bring down a mega yacht any%

corbin@awful.systems · 3 pts · 1y

That still puts Larry Ellison in the danger zone, at least.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 22 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Wait, they replaced the two masts with one double sized one? That seems a bit unwise.

Most of the time, though, the Bayesian operated like a motorboat, powered by two enormous diesel engines. During her five-day voyage, Ms. VanSickle said they sailed only once, for just a few hours. But when they did, the boat moved through the water so smoothly, she said, it felt like they were “gliding.”

Yes that is how sailing often feels if the water isnt choppy.

aio@awful.systems · 28 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Mr. Costantino said the design was not at fault and that the towering mast, which stood 237 feet tall, had not created “any kind of problem.”

“The ship was an unsinkable ship,” he said. “I say it, I repeat it.”

- Designer of sunken ship

froztbyte@awful.systems · 19 pts · 1y

“no no you don’t get it, you’re floating it wrong”

bitofhope@awful.systems · 16 pts · 1y

Never ever board a ship if someone calls her unsinkable.

sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems · 18 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Some innocent people died so it's sad stuff, but I can't get past the fact that they named a top heavy weirdly balanced yacht the Bayesian.

Well on the bright side naval engineers will be able to update their ~~drivers~~ priors after this perfectly engineered unsinkable sink sa--

“This boat had definite shortcomings that kind of uniquely made it vulnerable to what happened.”

“people would take photos of it constantly because it was so crazy-looking in comparison to other boats.”

Philipp Luke, a Dutch naval architect, started violently shaking his head. “No, no, no,” he said. “You don’t do that.”

“When I first saw this, I couldn’t believe it,” said Mr. Roberts, the naval architect. “It made no sense to me.”

“Technology moved on,” Mr. Costantino said.

Oh.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 12 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I don't know. I feel like the prior for putting tech billionaires on massive single-masted yachts with high waterlines and low air vents is still pretty positive. This is only one bad voyage; consider how many trips provide evidence that this is a good plan.

Much like Titan, which had several successful voyages to the Titanic that other billionaires should seek to emulate by using the exact same sorta-procen design and construction that Titan did.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 13 pts · 1y

Still think this is a bit expensive, both on cost and collateral damage. Popularizing being your own helicopter pilot among the mega rich is a tried and true tactic.

Soyweiser@awful.systems · 4 pts · 1y

The boat wasnt called that at first, the guy who ordered it gave it a different name. Guess he sold it as the weirdest HP assassination play

jaschop@awful.systems · 14 pts · 1y (4 replies)

His Wikipedia article is quite a ride. Apparently he and a Stephen Chamberlain were recently found innocent for a bunch of fraud charges. They boil down to inflating the value of a SW company he sold to Hewlett-Packart. They died within a day of each other in unrelated accidents. Must be rough.

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 18 pts · 1y

On one hand, if inflating the value of the startup you're offloading onto a tech giant is a crime we should put half of Silicon Valley in prison. On the other hand, maybe we should put half of the Valley in prison.

arbitraryidentifier@awful.systems · 14 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Damn, HP doesn't mess around. I'm going to stop trashing them around the office.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Right? Didn't even get caught hiring assassins, unlike those Boeing clowns. Just a weird coincidence, haha!

YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems · 6 pts · 1y

Given that his codefendant was hit and killed by a car three days after the acquittal, I'm not sure if they even hired assassins or if they have some kind of black magicians on staff.

cstross@wandering.shop · 11 pts · 1y (1 reply)

@dgerard Do not mess with HP, they have the *real* orbital weather control lasers! /s

BlueMonday1984@awful.systems · 3 pts · 1y

Happy cake day, Charlie!

Sternhammer@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 1y

The documents also show that the Bayesian could begin taking on some water at angles that appeared to violate the safety threshold set by the British Maritime and Coastguard Agency.

Clearly safety rules shouldn’t apply to the rich and famous. For example, princesses shouldn’t need to worry about wearing seat belts in cars speeding away from Parisian paparazzi.

swlabr@awful.systems · 9 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Ok so if hubris somehow becomes a synonym of bayes I’d be all for it

dgerard@awful.systems · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

bayesian epistemology for sure

Collectivist@awful.systems · -4 pts · 1y

Well naive bayesianism, as practiced by the rationalists. Bayesianism itself can be reformed to get rid of most its problems, though I've yet to see a good solution for the absent-minded driver problem.