That's because modern desktops (looking at you, Gnome) have decided that discoverability isn't worth their time. They want empty, pretty interfaces with minimal functionality.
It doesn't. I don't use Linux anymore and was far from a 'noob'. I got over the issue after the first time and used a highly personally configured LF, aliases, and ZSH auto-suggest mostly anyway. -Appreciate the tips others might benefit from though. -Thanks!
I actually have it installed on Windows, but never got around to configuring (outside of Yazi for which I have bookmarks for) or using it. I also hesitated to get into it because I want to know the directory structure well so it's not a handicap. -It is popular AF though. Probably not something for normies though.
Haven't used Linux in about a year and don't care to go back to it. Never needed personal tech support and ran Arch with highly customized DWM (also dabbled in Fedora and Manjaro). -Far more experienced and adept than the evangelist trolls trying to trash here. -For what its worth. Its not like the topic is a major issue or even one that needs a solution.
What kept me using desktop Linux for so long? - Lies / misinformation / spare time for it as a hobby (and this is why I do what I do now).
Take Windows subs on Reddit. -They're literally infested by the same group of mods which are also Linux evangelists. If you call out Linux brigaders in a Windows sub - post is deleted by them. The most popular 'linuxsucks' sub on reddit shows favoritism to Linux users 'do not report Linux users'. Here, I documented how someone is posting totally unrelated posts and yet one of my slightly related was removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/desktoplinuxsucks/comments/1gipbzb/so_why_the_watermarks/
-In summary, the current amount of evangelism is already like an infestation of vermin or bugs.
The most outspoken evangelists either don't know what they're talking about, are liars, and or think their anecdotes weigh against largely documented and well known issues. Linux is going through major changes. Pulse to Pipewire killed ac3 passthrough. Wayland was also touted as 'ready' for everyone and isn't. -Despite this, the evangelists will tell us how great of a time it is to switch.
Evangelists act like every Windows game works under Linux and 'sometimes better'. -Better is short lived (like with Elden Ring), or based on imperceivable differences that only benchmarks will show. They don't even approach one of the the main benefits of PC gaming which is modding (more difficult / time consuming on Linux if even possible). A racing game I was playing in Linux seemed like it was playing perfectly fine, but there was a race halfway through the game that I could NOT beat, even when I played it perfectly. - Of course it wasn't an issue in Windows.
It all has a bounce back effect. There are many of us who are fueled by their ignorant bad advice, lies, and obnoxiousness. It would be better if evangelists just stfu to put it bluntly (but they won't). Linux isn't ready for normies and probably will never be. It's mostly a choice of conspiracy theorists or communist / Marxists who will aready know about it. Also anyone that would install an alternative OS already knows about it.
The 'Community' is a mess of infighting, people who like to post stupid things like screenshots of neofetch, ricers, and for that matter make it look like it's practically all you can do on Linux. If Linux has a future on desktop, it will be partly proprietary like Android or ChromeOS. It won't be what the neck beard furry loving anime watching, infighting basement dweller crowd want it to be.
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TunaCowboy@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 1y
bind 'set completion-ignore-case on'Agent641@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1y
bInD 'sEt CoMpLeTiOn-IgNoRe-CaSe On'Nimbly@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y
Solutions? No thanks, just a circlejerk here
magoosh@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 1y
Case insensitivity goes brrr
vox@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1y
or just use fish shell
superkret@feddit.org · 21 pts · 1y
It's Linux. You're supposed to name your user data folders
~/doc
~/dsk
~/dwn
~/mus
~/pic
~/vid
or even better, just use /tmp as your download folder.
kabi@lemm.ee · 41 pts · 1y
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
MimicJar@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
You can also setup custom dirs, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XDG_user_directories
All of mine (except Desktop) point to "$HOME/downloads"
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
Im halfway to grey beard at this point but didn't know this. Thanks.
Bookmeat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
That's because modern desktops (looking at you, Gnome) have decided that discoverability isn't worth their time. They want empty, pretty interfaces with minimal functionality.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
I use gnome and love it so not sure how that at all even relates here.
It's completely irrelevant to your de.
superkret@feddit.org · 0 pts · 1y
You've downloaded half your life from the internet?
Acters@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
My whole drive is half downloads folder and half OS
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
You don't keep stuff in /dev/null?
rottingleaf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
dl,sh,src,var,old,pic,app,booksthat's mine. No
binyet - it's a new installation with ahome_old.tar.zstfile for the old.EDIT: Of course I do have a
Downloadsdirectory, I've just forgot to alias it to something more pleasant yet.lemming741@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
~/Documents showing up in my tab completion
SatyrSack@feddit.org · 14 pts · 1y
Create a symlink if that behaviour bothers you
Bonus for solving another common point of confusion with
~/Downloads:Azzu@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
Won't this be annoying because you'll suddenly have 4 entries for the same thing when you
ls?Zachariah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
symlinks are sexy
madthumbs@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1y
It doesn't. I don't use Linux anymore and was far from a 'noob'. I got over the issue after the first time and used a highly personally configured LF, aliases, and ZSH auto-suggest mostly anyway. -Appreciate the tips others might benefit from though. -Thanks!
TxzK@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1y
May I introduce you to zoxide
madthumbs@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1y
I actually have it installed on Windows, but never got around to configuring (outside of Yazi for which I have bookmarks for) or using it. I also hesitated to get into it because I want to know the directory structure well so it's not a handicap. -It is popular AF though. Probably not something for normies though.
superkret@feddit.org · 9 pts · 1y
OP again with the pro move of posting their Linux issues on linuxsucks to bait Lemmy into suggesting fixes.
madthumbs@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 1y
Haven't used Linux in about a year and don't care to go back to it. Never needed personal tech support and ran Arch with highly customized DWM (also dabbled in Fedora and Manjaro). -Far more experienced and adept than the evangelist trolls trying to trash here. -For what its worth. Its not like the topic is a major issue or even one that needs a solution.
What kept me using desktop Linux for so long? - Lies / misinformation / spare time for it as a hobby (and this is why I do what I do now).
graphito@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 1y
Having been your hope broken by the quality issues, can you suggest effective and appropriate way to advertise Linux?
Not a gotcha, am genuinely interested what lesson you can give to our at times overly enthusiastic community
madthumbs@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1y
Take Windows subs on Reddit. -They're literally infested by the same group of mods which are also Linux evangelists. If you call out Linux brigaders in a Windows sub - post is deleted by them. The most popular 'linuxsucks' sub on reddit shows favoritism to Linux users 'do not report Linux users'. Here, I documented how someone is posting totally unrelated posts and yet one of my slightly related was removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/desktoplinuxsucks/comments/1gipbzb/so_why_the_watermarks/
-In summary, the current amount of evangelism is already like an infestation of vermin or bugs.
The most outspoken evangelists either don't know what they're talking about, are liars, and or think their anecdotes weigh against largely documented and well known issues. Linux is going through major changes. Pulse to Pipewire killed ac3 passthrough. Wayland was also touted as 'ready' for everyone and isn't. -Despite this, the evangelists will tell us how great of a time it is to switch.
Evangelists act like every Windows game works under Linux and 'sometimes better'. -Better is short lived (like with Elden Ring), or based on imperceivable differences that only benchmarks will show. They don't even approach one of the the main benefits of PC gaming which is modding (more difficult / time consuming on Linux if even possible). A racing game I was playing in Linux seemed like it was playing perfectly fine, but there was a race halfway through the game that I could NOT beat, even when I played it perfectly. - Of course it wasn't an issue in Windows.
It all has a bounce back effect. There are many of us who are fueled by their ignorant bad advice, lies, and obnoxiousness. It would be better if evangelists just stfu to put it bluntly (but they won't). Linux isn't ready for normies and probably will never be. It's mostly a choice of conspiracy theorists or communist / Marxists who will aready know about it. Also anyone that would install an alternative OS already knows about it.
The 'Community' is a mess of infighting, people who like to post stupid things like screenshots of neofetch, ricers, and for that matter make it look like it's practically all you can do on Linux. If Linux has a future on desktop, it will be partly proprietary like Android or ChromeOS. It won't be what the neck beard furry loving anime watching, infighting basement dweller crowd want it to be.
synapse1278@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Never heard of
zshandoh-my-zsh? Skill issue.thirteene@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
https://ohmyz.sh/ This is the way, the fuzzy corrects alone are worth it. Themes, git metadata, plugins and seamless onboarding.
steventhedev@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
kometes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I veto pull requests that have upper case directory or file names.
baggins@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y
madthumbs@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1y
Documents?
Thcdenton@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y