My friends wanted to move off Telegram to Signal. I said sure let's move off Telegram, but let's move onto Matrix instead. Now I have to use a Matrix bridge to talk to them and I still had to install Signal lol
I mean Signal is definitely better than Telegram, but if we were going to make a move anyway, I would've preferred the one that doesn't require a phone number, or even the existence of a phone.
Maybe that's is the way... Big corporations are silently inserting their corporate dicks in our asses by convincing or bribing their way by some propaganda or some gain.
Afaik session's main thing is that it's like signal but without phone numbers. While there are cases where one might prefer that, the use of phone numbers does provide some benefits. It makes things simple so even my elderly parents can use it. So it's not that one approach is better, there's just different use cases
Sorry. I wish I hadn’t a few years ago. I will be looking to move to a non-Android, non-iOS phone soon so family will need another way to contact me. I can’t take a project serious that demands I use one of the corpo duopoly phones or even have a phone at all, but Signal, LINE, & a couple of other chat apps have this weird requirement.
The developer literally puts information in the README.md on how to contribute code, so you’re correct they made the choice to allow collaboration.
Either collaborate to make it do what you want or quit whining about it not doing that thing. Signal is free after all, the least you could do is contribute if you want more features.
GitHub is a great version control system, regardless of its owner.
I mean the creator requires the Android/iOS primary device or no service… by design. They do not want another option.
Also not every project is open to contributions that fundamentally change things—which is why forks are so common in free software. Changing this core isn’t worth the effort since there are alternatives that already do everything Signal does, but just have a worse marketing team. I am very much allowed to be as angry at family stuck on Signal as I would if they used WhatsApp for similar reasons—both technical & social.
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ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 1y
Wait... Browser cookies?
AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 1y
In an evil world bribery is the only way to get things done.
boonhet@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 1y
My friends wanted to move off Telegram to Signal. I said sure let's move off Telegram, but let's move onto Matrix instead. Now I have to use a Matrix bridge to talk to them and I still had to install Signal lol
I mean Signal is definitely better than Telegram, but if we were going to make a move anyway, I would've preferred the one that doesn't require a phone number, or even the existence of a phone.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1y
My whole life I kept trying to move people to the better chat program/app. It's a waste of time. Either they'll do our don't on their own time.
jaypatelani@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
Maybe simplex or Threema for that. Matrix is like replacement of IRC
Scolding7300@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
Nice!
Psyhackological@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
Maybe that's is the way... Big corporations are silently inserting their corporate dicks in our asses by convincing or bribing their way by some propaganda or some gain.
SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Signal vs session: which is better?
3dogsinatrenchcoat@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 1y
Afaik session's main thing is that it's like signal but without phone numbers. While there are cases where one might prefer that, the use of phone numbers does provide some benefits. It makes things simple so even my elderly parents can use it. So it's not that one approach is better, there's just different use cases
Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 1y
Musk once wrote “use signal.” Since I learned that I’m a bit paranoid about it.
Also it’s banned in Russia? There’s a reason.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
Russia prefers services they can spy on.
Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 1y
If an E2E encrypted messenger is banned in a country, it is like a badge of honour I guess.
Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
toastal@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 1y
Sorry. I wish I hadn’t a few years ago. I will be looking to move to a non-Android, non-iOS phone soon so family will need another way to contact me. I can’t take a project serious that demands I use one of the corpo duopoly phones or even have a phone at all, but Signal, LINE, & a couple of other chat apps have this weird requirement.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 1y
Why don’t you contribute to Signal and be the change you want to see? You can make a pull request in GitHub.
toastal@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 1y
The creator explictly made this choice.
Also screw telling folks they must use Microsoft products to contribute to a project.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 1y
The developer literally puts information in the README.md on how to contribute code, so you’re correct they made the choice to allow collaboration.
Either collaborate to make it do what you want or quit whining about it not doing that thing. Signal is free after all, the least you could do is contribute if you want more features.
GitHub is a great version control system, regardless of its owner.
toastal@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
I mean the creator requires the Android/iOS primary device or no service… by design. They do not want another option.
Also not every project is open to contributions that fundamentally change things—which is why forks are so common in free software. Changing this core isn’t worth the effort since there are alternatives that already do everything Signal does, but just have a worse marketing team. I am very much allowed to be as angry at family stuck on Signal as I would if they used WhatsApp for similar reasons—both technical & social.
Dutchie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
toastal@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
The difficulty will be convincing family to move again—not the technology options
Dutchie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y