"Hannibal, you magnificent bastard; I read your book!"

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PugJesus@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y

Explanation: In the First Punic War, the Roman Republic utterly smashed its nemesis, Carthage. In the Second Punic War, things might've gone similarly, except for a brilliant Carthaginian general - Hannibal - who spent almost two decades terrorizing the Romans in their own heartland, using a number of novel stratagems to outwit and outmatch the numerically superior Roman forces, and crush them in open battle.

During this time, a young Roman aristocrat, our dear Scipio (later given the name Africanus for his victories), entered into military service. Learning from Hannibal's strategies and tactics, and with a razor-sharp mind of his own, Scipio managed to flip the script and used Hannibal's own tactics against other Carthaginian forces, eventually culminating in a battle between Scipio and Hannibal himself, a battle which Scipio won.

Learn from your enemies, kids - it could save your Republic one day!

sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 1y (6 replies)

You see Scipio Africanus as a hero for defeating Hannibal.

I see Scipio Africanus as a villain for defeating Hannibal.

We are not the same.

(This message was brought to you by Quintus Fabius Maximus Carthage. It's totally sponsored by Carthage)

ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y (5 replies)

Maybe this is what's wrong with the world today. What kind of timeline would we have had if Carthage had defeated the Romans

PugJesus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Maybe this is what’s wrong with the world today. What kind of timeline would we have had if Carthage had defeated the Romans

Titus, get the cross

trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y

CETERVM CENSEO CARTHAGINEM ESSE DELENDAM

(this message totally isn't sponsored by Marcus Porcius Cato)

ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Titus, get the cross

Is that a sexual fetish reference? .... or do you just hate Carthage?

sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 1y

Dude, shut up! They're gonna salt your farmlands** if you don't stop Carthage-posting!

**(the salting of Carthage is apocryphal with dubious supporting historical evidence.)

Lyre@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Historians regularly point out that Scipio's victory over Hannibal was a little bit too poetic in nature, as if designed to fit into a wider cultural narrative.

Not to say there never was a Scipio Africanus or anything, but what we know about him and Hannibal is heavily skewed by what the Romans thought was narratively fullfilling.

PugJesus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

Historians regularly point out that Scipio’s victory over Hannibal was a little bit too poetic in nature, as if designed to fit into a wider cultural narrative.

I've literally never heard this claim before, do you have any examples of the claim being made?