c/electricvehicles · by Sunshine@lemmy.vg · 1y

The End of Diesel: Europe’s Buses Are Going Fully Electric — Fast

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/03/08/the-end-of-diesel-europes-buses-are-going-fully-electric-fast/

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cron@feddit.org · 26 pts · 1y (11 replies)

The Netherlands, which had once allocated 20% of its new city bus purchases to hydrogen in 2021, has now completely phased it out.

The earlier we accept that hydrogen is a dead end for most road-related use cases, the better. Good that new city buses now run mostly electric.

Noedel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (10 replies)

A while ago I was talking to someone form Toyota's sustainability team and they were FROTHING over hydrogen. I don't know much about it, but that surprised me.

Geobloke@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (9 replies)

Because Japan needs to import most of its energy, it makes more sense to burn the energy at the wheels then behind the wires

threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Japan needs to import most of its energy

Does Japan not get sunlight or wind, or are there other factors at play?

wewbull@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 1y

Offshore wind isn't really a starter for them. They're on the edge of the Pacific shelf and the waters get deep quick. That makes platforms very hard. I also don't think they get much in terms of prevailing winds unlike northern Europe with the Atlantic Jetstreams.

Geobloke@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

Well, real estate is at a premium in an earthquake prone, typhoon ravaged set of islands. They even have geothermal potential, but don't want to industrialise something with deep cultural value.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y (5 replies)

And how is turning fossil fuels into hydrogen in a wildly inefficient process going to help with that?

Geobloke@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (4 replies)

Well, the plan would be to go l use to green energy eventually. Yes, still inefficient, but it makes more sense than burning it in a power plant and pumping the electricity to the car

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

If you have green electricity, why not just use it to charge the battery? Why go through horribly inefficient extra steps?

Geobloke@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Because they don't want to use it in Japan?

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

You're not making any sense at all.

ChinoKawaii@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (8 replies)

I haven't seen a single electric bus in czechia

we do use a lot of trams and trolleybuses, but still quite a lot of loud busses

cron@feddit.org · 10 pts · 1y (6 replies)