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c/europe · by Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 1y

We’re all living longer, but Mediterraneans live longest in EU, says Eurostat

https://www.politico.eu/article/were-all-living-longer-but-mediterraneans-the-longest-says-eurostat/

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snuggledick@lemm.ee · 26 pts · 1y (6 replies)

Relevant research that just won an ig nobel prize.

tl;dr: they don't live longer, they just don't report their dead relatives and pocket the pensions.

https://www.medicalrepublic.com.au/maybe-its-the-mediterranean-diet-maybe-its-pension-fraud/110766

Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 1y (3 replies)

The blue zone’s fraudulent claims has debunked:

https://youtu.be/4NKT_Eu0BEI

Maintaining activity is associated with lower mortality.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/282655

Differences in all-cause mortality risk associated with animal and plant dietary protein sources consumption

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-30455-9

Social relationships and physiological determinants of longevity across the human life span

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4725506/

Plant-based diet and risk of all-cause mortality: a systematic review and meta-analysis

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.1481363/full

DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Hmm, are youtube videos peer-reviewed?

Sunshine@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Check the studies below. There’s a meta analysis included.

fikniefnadjofullinn@feddit.is · 0 pts · 1y
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alfredon996@feddit.it · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

This maybe a bit, but it's hard to do, you have to hide the bodies of your deceased ones, it's not so easy.

Low natality plays a more important factor, it's hard for people to die young, if there aren't many young people anymore.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

you have to hide the bodies of your deceased ones

From whom? There are people living alone who die in their homes and aren't discovered for months, even years. If you have a caretaker and you pass away (and the caretaker relies on your pension to pay their bills) it is trivial to just... not say anything and keep collecting the pension. In a system suffering administrative decay, wherein the elderly are already obfuscated and ignored, there are few real means of physically validating whether an individual is alive or dead.

Low natality plays a more important factor, it’s hard for people to die young, if there aren’t many young people anymore.

True, but you can weight for natality in your statistics already. The "Blue Zone" hypothesis focuses on the parts of the population already older than 60, typically with an eye towards people who are lifelong residents. That much of the methodology is sound.

devfuuu@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It's obviously because we work the most hours and rest the less.

Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1y

If you ask me it's because non mediteranian winters are disgusting.

professionalspooner@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1y

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/en/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20250314-3

The Eurostat page looks much better in terms of the information it provides.

Even better: Eurostat | Statistics Explained | Mortality and life expectancy statistics. It has life expectancy at birth and at 65.

Life expectancy at birth has risen rapidly during the past century due to a number of factors. These include a reduction in infant mortality, rising living standards, improved lifestyles and better education, as well as advances in healthcare and medicine. Official statistics reveal that life expectancy has risen, on average, by more than two years per decade since the 1960s. In 2020, however, after the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic, this indicator declined in 25 EU countries compared to 2019, the exceptions being Denmark and Cyprus. In 2023, life expectancy at birth was equal to or higher than in 2019 in 21 EU countries. By contrast life expectancy fell in 6 EU countries: Finland (-0.5 years), the Netherlands (-0.3 years), Germany (-0.2 years) to Italy, Latvia and Austria (all -0.1 years).

There's also an entire book on "The imapct of Demographic change": https://commission.europa.eu/system/files/2023-01/Demography_report_2022_0.pdf