They try to produce them as sustainable as possible. You can replace the battery and other parts. And you support an European company!
They try to produce them as sustainable as possible. You can replace the battery and other parts. And you support an European company!
27 Comments
CritFail@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
Not until they bring back 3.5mm jack.
tfm@europe.pub · 1 pts · 1y
I don't think this will ever happen in our lifetime anymore, unfortunately.
CritFail@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
There are still manufacturers out there making 3.5mm jack phones, and still have Bluetooth as an option so users can choose which to use. Sony and Samsung have models still, and there are a few others.
I just can't believe having both was the norm 15 years ago, with ample waterproofing, and now we have let it slip away for the dubious benefit of a marginally slimmer phone.
tfm@europe.pub · 6 pts · 1y
The real reason was to abandon an open standard. They want to sell their proprietary shit.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
As much as I like the Fairphone people, the phones suck for me personally:
noodlejetski@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 1y
two. the Fairphone 4 and 5 have two back-facing cameras. and I've been very grateful for the existence of the wide-angle camera countless times.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
ah - I must have mistaken one of the sensors (distance? infra-red?) for a third camera on the photos. Still - one camera too many for me :)
noodlejetski@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
yeah, it's an infrared sensor.
I thought I'd never need the wide angle one, until I went for a trip abroad and tried to take a picture of a building along a narrow street, with nowhere to step back to capture all of it with the regular camera.
tfm@europe.pub · 2 pts · 1y
It would be so awesome if they'd release a smaller, maybe like a 5.5 inch phone. I have big hands and still often struggle.
To be fair that's a problem with all manufacturers. But yes they should provide much longer support. At least 5 years. I'd also happily pay for an extended support after that if it's still working.
I'd love them to support the project more! Degoogling is still hard. GrapheneOS support would be awesome too.
I didn't get this trend in the first place. It looks ugly on all phones. Still they keep adding them like their life depends on it.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Their position on this is that they are too small to run two product lines in parallel, so they focus on what the majority of customers want. And that's unfortunately not smaller phones :(
tfm@europe.pub · 1 pts · 1y
That's so unfortunate. I'd still rather buy their phones than supporting Apple or any other soulless corporation. Even if they have the perfect phone
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Definitely, but then again, it's not like the soulless corporations have any smaller phones. My current phone is a shiftphone, at least that is designed for working with LineageOS out of the box.
tfm@europe.pub · 1 pts · 1y
Interesting. Haven't heard about them. Would you be ready to post a link to them into the community? :)
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
https://www.shift.eco/en/
tfm@europe.pub · 2 pts · 1y
Thanks!
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I was especially miffed when they decided to prioritize fair trade materials over a free and de-googled OS. That was around 2017ish, and now we have the proof how quickly even the big corporate players can turn fascist, as the de-googled phone users haven't been telling everyone for at least a decade why it's a really really bad idea to have your phone talk with some corporate server outside of your phone provider (bad enough but necessary to use a phone) on everything you do.
tfm@europe.pub · 2 pts · 1y
I suppose they did that to make it as easy as possible to get into it. It's sad but it's just how it is.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I wouldn't buy "as easy as possible" from Hitler-Germany, so why would I accept a product from a company creating the control tools for the next generation fascist regime, knowing full well the potential consequenced?
makyo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
How does the OS work? It's a forked Android system or something, right?
Rin@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
makyo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Okay now you have me interested
tfm@europe.pub · 3 pts · 1y
By default it's normal Android. But you can easily install LineageOS or /e/ OS for example. Both open source degoogled Android distros.
kpes4@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Sure if threir cheapest wouldn't cost half a car
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Fairphones are a good start, however their proprietary /e/OS has numerous glaring security gaps that the company does not address. For example:
DivestOS maintained a list of security lapses that the E Foundation had not closed, but now that DivestOS is abandoned, I can't find the document. While Fairphone is a good answer to the centralization of the tech industry to the US and China, it's still rough and needs improvement before its security can be trusted. Please be aware that not every alternative is a good alternative. Be discerning, with this mass-migration, people are bound to get caught by dishonest representation and marketing.
tfm@europe.pub · 2 pts · 1y
/e/OS is open source not proprietary. But you are correct they are slow with addressing security issues. I'd recommend to go with LineageOS for now.
noodlejetski@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
/e/ isn't "their" OS (it's developed and maintained by the /e/ Foundation), and it's open source.
zippythezigzag@lemm.ee · -1 pts · 1y
No. They are slowly abandoning their namesake.
tfm@europe.pub · 1 pts · 1y
Can you explain?