It’s because the latest Reddit refugee wave have been exposed to uncensored news for more than five days, breaking a personal best.
When one side unironically complains that the other has kidnapped a soldier from his tank… We’ve been conditioned to ignore atrocities I think, as humans, because those of us who survive still have to live. And further out, people have no sympathy for people they’ve never been shown are people too. But the tank soldier kidnapping thing is just making fun of their own sympathizers to their face. I’m sure there’s a kind of person who picks up on these things and goes from being a “reasonable” “centrist” to looking at both sides and understanding what they’re really looking at. It’s really not complicated
If you replace the hammer and sickle for an American flag it makes sense .. if you replace the Palestinian flag for a star of David, it makes a lot of sense.
And to clarify, it doesn't mean I am antisemitic .... it means I am anti-zionist
It's a controversial subject but it is one we should all have on a regular basis seeing as the debate is actually costing the lives of thousands of people ..... but I wanted to ask ....
Besides the star of David, how would you symbolize the zionist movement.
As far as I know, there are no commonly recognized symbols for Zionism aside from the star of David, and this does a great disservice to non-Zionist Jews and anti-Zionist Jews, to the point putting them in danger, because it conflates Judaism and Zionism. You might use the Israeli flag, but again this is fraught because of its insidious co-optation of the star of David.
The relationship between actual 1930s nazis and the arab world was kind of complex for obvious geopolitical reasons, but Palestinians pretty much generally denounced nazis. Also back when it might've been good strategy not to.
12,000 Palestinians fought against the Nazis in WWII
::: spoiler Couple quotes from the article
One has to wonder why no organization was ever established to commemorate the actions of these Palestinian volunteers. “Many of them were killed and many others are still listed as missing. But no memorial has ever been established for them,” says Abbasi. In fact, the records of the Palestinian volunteers, along with much of their personal archives and papers, have disappeared, much of it lost in the War of Independence.
So who were the Palestinians who volunteered for the British Army to fight the Nazis? Abbasi says they mostly came from the Palestinian elite and that, contrary to what many think, represented “an important and central part of the Palestinian public.” A part of the public that believed it was necessary to stand by Britain at this time, and to temporarily put aside the Palestinian national aspirations – akin to the Jewish idea to “fight Hitler as if there were no White Paper, and fight the White Paper as if there were no Hitler.”
So this is saying Palestine originated with Nazis and Soviet-style communists. I guess some people just missed all that critical thinking we keep trying to put in the education.
You are completely correct. Putin used to work for the KGB back when Russia considered itself communist. Many, many things are broken, including this meme and my attempt at a reinterpretation of it.
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davel@lemmy.ml · 104 pts · 1y
what horseshoe theory does to a mf
Nojustice@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 1y
There's a heart warming lack of libs both sideing in these comments, at least so far, though. So that's nice
ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 1y
It’s because the latest Reddit refugee wave have been exposed to uncensored news for more than five days, breaking a personal best.
When one side unironically complains that the other has kidnapped a soldier from his tank… We’ve been conditioned to ignore atrocities I think, as humans, because those of us who survive still have to live. And further out, people have no sympathy for people they’ve never been shown are people too. But the tank soldier kidnapping thing is just making fun of their own sympathizers to their face. I’m sure there’s a kind of person who picks up on these things and goes from being a “reasonable” “centrist” to looking at both sides and understanding what they’re really looking at. It’s really not complicated
Proud of you, new joiners, I see you.
MrMobius@sh.itjust.works · 53 pts · 1y
So communism and nazism gave birth to Palestine? Wtf!? I'm having a really big mental block…
Mr_Fish@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 1y
Ah yes, because the eastern front never happened
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 47 pts · 1y
First they came for the Communists.
And they made lots of love and had a baby called Palestine the end.
L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 1y
First they came. (For the communists)
Dragonstaff@leminal.space · 7 pts · 1y
TBF, communists are really hot and good in bed.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 1y
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y
Turns out caring for others leads to amazing experiences
LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 38 pts · 1y
Filed under four-panel memes I was actually hoping would be loss
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 1y
If you replace the hammer and sickle for an American flag it makes sense .. if you replace the Palestinian flag for a star of David, it makes a lot of sense.
And to clarify, it doesn't mean I am antisemitic .... it means I am anti-zionist
davel@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 1y
It’s best not to bring up the star of David at all, except in condemning the state of Israel for co-opting it for the purposes of Zionist propaganda.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y
It's a controversial subject but it is one we should all have on a regular basis seeing as the debate is actually costing the lives of thousands of people ..... but I wanted to ask ....
Besides the star of David, how would you symbolize the zionist movement.
davel@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 1y
As far as I know, there are no commonly recognized symbols for Zionism aside from the star of David, and this does a great disservice to non-Zionist Jews and anti-Zionist Jews, to the point putting them in danger, because it conflates Judaism and Zionism. You might use the Israeli flag, but again this is fraught because of its insidious co-optation of the star of David.
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
I prefer the star of Ninja, it's less violent
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
And they have a British nanny and French maid.
Fucking Sikes-Picot
tourist@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1y
I saw this post right before I saw an article about Israel dropping a bomb on a school in Palestine
UltraBlack@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 1y
Because hamas are hiding in hospitals and schools to spark outrage when israel attacks
tourist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Why doesn't the US army just drop a JDAM on an elementary school when there's an active shooter in there?
UltraBlack@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Significant threat
And what are you supposed to do? Why should you play fair when your enemies don't
vga@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 1y
The relationship between actual 1930s nazis and the arab world was kind of complex for obvious geopolitical reasons, but Palestinians pretty much generally denounced nazis. Also back when it might've been good strategy not to.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
12,000 Palestinians fought against the Nazis in WWII
::: spoiler Couple quotes from the article
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SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
It's an interesting choice to put the communist on top.
sturlabragason@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
But why two panels of fucking? That just feels a bit thirsty.
DesolateMood@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
If you prefer we could make it one wide panel
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
Maybe the first one implies it wasn't initially consensual?
TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1y
How much glue did someone huff before making this?
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
huh?
Bernar_moustach@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 1y
???
bunkyprewster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Fuck Nazis!
Kowowow@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
I wonder if there is anything deeper to nazism being shown as the mom here
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
I need this but in a civilised polandball style.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Someone has been watching not enough or too much Simpsons.
BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
I want to know the test prompt behind this
bobbyfiend@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
So this is saying Palestine originated with Nazis and Soviet-style communists. I guess some people just missed all that critical thinking we keep trying to put in the education.
6R1MR34P3R@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
i idea if I should downvote or upvote it, im angry anyways
davidagain@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
At first I thought "Nazis wouldn't take communist dick", but then I remembered Trump and Putin.
(The baby isn't Palestine, though, it's the global trade war Trump is starting or Elon Musk or JD Vance or something.)
easily3667@lemmus.org · 9 pts · 1y
davidagain@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
You are completely correct. Putin used to work for the KGB back when Russia considered itself communist. Many, many things are broken, including this meme and my attempt at a reinterpretation of it.
VinesNFluff@pawb.social · 2 pts · 1y
"The whole universe is mostly knackered, babes" – 15th Doctor Who (2023)