Funny how there's almost never a good guy with a gun, like statistically almost never. There was that cowboy that shot an active shooter in a church, and I'll give props to the guy the ran into Uvalde when the uniformed bad guys were too chicken shit to save kids lives, and just hung outside. I can't think of any off the top of my head, although I know they exist, but I could prattle off at least a dozen high profile shootings.
Even in this case, it wasn't the random "good guy with a gun". It was a member of the peacekeeping group setup by the event organizers. IE, it was their job.
Usually the good guys with guns are militia or are shot by the cops. A damned fine example I know of happened after WW2 where when a bunch of men got back to their home county they basically had to form a militia to expel the corrupt sheriff who was doing shit like ballot stuffing. Spoiler the sheriff and his mafia goons didn't stand a chance against men who just got done fighting the Imperial Japanese and Nazi Germany.
I think this is a pretty gigantic citation needed here. I couldn't find anything supporting this assertion but plenty of material showing the opposite.
Before the CDC took it off the site, they had reference to an estimated 500-2.5mil DGUs a year. DGUs are hard to estimate because a dgu can be as simple as presenting the firearm to a would be attacker and the attacker leaving the victim(s) alone. Most people don't call the police because of this.
Why does Trump need to call Walz? It's obvious they're not going to be on the same page about this or cooperate. The call would just be a waste of both their time.
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webp@mander.xyz · 114 pts · 1y
He is afraid of Walz
Rooskie91@discuss.online · 3 pts · 1y
lennybird@lemmy.world · 107 pts · 1y
Good opportunity for Walz to say, "fuck no I don't want to talk to the guy whose rhetoric instigated this."
Uranus_Hz@lemm.ee · 31 pts · 1y
Walz to his secretary: “Tell him I’m not here right now”
Etterra@discuss.online · 20 pts · 1y
Tell him I'll call him back on February 31st.
tonytins@pawb.social · 105 pts · 1y
Ah, the irony.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 101 pts · 1y
The projection.
DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 1y
Don't bother: Walz has enough on his mind.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 1y
Listen, I'm a piece of shit criminal with credible evidence of sexually assaulting 28 women. Why would you expect me to act like a decent human being?
Starbelliedboy@lemm.ee · 50 pts · 1y
Yeah, he should've been there to shoot that man! What a loser!
tonytins@pawb.social · 40 pts · 1y
If only there was a good guy with a gun to save the day.
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BassTurd@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
Funny how there's almost never a good guy with a gun, like statistically almost never. There was that cowboy that shot an active shooter in a church, and I'll give props to the guy the ran into Uvalde when the uniformed bad guys were too chicken shit to save kids lives, and just hung outside. I can't think of any off the top of my head, although I know they exist, but I could prattle off at least a dozen high profile shootings.
Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 1y
There was that guy in colorado who shot a mass shooter, then the cops killed him
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Oof. Double dipping on the baddies with guns on that one.
Boddhisatva@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 1y
Even in this case, it wasn't the random "good guy with a gun". It was a member of the peacekeeping group setup by the event organizers. IE, it was their job.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 1y
Usually the good guys with guns are militia or are shot by the cops. A damned fine example I know of happened after WW2 where when a bunch of men got back to their home county they basically had to form a militia to expel the corrupt sheriff who was doing shit like ballot stuffing. Spoiler the sheriff and his mafia goons didn't stand a chance against men who just got done fighting the Imperial Japanese and Nazi Germany.
barneypiccolo@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Where did this happen?
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
I think it was in Athens McMinn county Tennessee, specifically Athens Tennessee.
barneypiccolo@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
It sounds like an interesting story, kind of a Walking Tall kind of thing.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1y
Last stat I saw was 1in 7000, but that includes cases with collateral damage.
So, for America, that's like once a year.
SupraMario@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1y
This is sooo false it's not even funny. There are way more DGUs than there are not.
And like it or not most mass shootings are stopped by someone with a firearm.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
I think this is a pretty gigantic citation needed here. I couldn't find anything supporting this assertion but plenty of material showing the opposite.
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Before the CDC took it off the site, they had reference to an estimated 500-2.5mil DGUs a year. DGUs are hard to estimate because a dgu can be as simple as presenting the firearm to a would be attacker and the attacker leaving the victim(s) alone. Most people don't call the police because of this.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y
DGU. I didn't know they invented an initialism at the rallies.
..the perp taking his own life.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Well, technically, that is someone with a firearm I suppose...
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
It's literally a term.
And no it's not.
You stay unarmed while fascist are roaming the street.
antisocialite@lemmy.today · 50 pts · 1y
They're all going out of their way to blame the assassination on Waltz, of all people.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 1y
Not the republican that did it.
CPMSP@midwest.social · 47 pts · 1y
Who gives a shit what Trump says?
TACO bout your own circus, you fucking clown.
PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 1y
What a fucking piece of shit.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 11 pts · 1y
Why does Trump need to call Walz? It's obvious they're not going to be on the same page about this or cooperate. The call would just be a waste of both their time.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
What? Because that guy only killed two Democrats, or what?