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c/linux · by SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 3y

Minimal Wayland Software?

Will be doing a fresh install on an old laptop in the near future and was considering trying wayland.

Can you recommend a decent & light window manager & terminal emulator?

I've played around with wayland but always ended up back on xorg, was gonna give it another shot.

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MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 3y (7 replies)

Sway and foot work pretty decently. Might want to check them out.

jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 3y (5 replies)
  • imv as an image viewer
  • emacs has wayland support
  • zathura for pdf viewing

Check Awesome Wayland for more.

aard@kyu.de · 5 pts · 3y (1 reply)

In case you're already using emacs I wouldn't bother with a separate pdf viewer - pdf-tools for emacs is imo the best PDF viewer nowadays available on linux.

jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 3y

Well, I gotta leave something for those who choose to reside with the beast: Neovim

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3y (2 replies)

imv looks good, thanks for the link

I'm a bit confused, I left Reddit to escape emacs users....should I be on kbin instead?

jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 3y

There is no saving your soul; Emacs is life, Emacs is death. /j

quantenzitrone@feddit.de · 1 pts · 3y

imv is the absolute best

famfo@social.dn42.us · 3 pts · 3y

In case you want eye candy (or how I call it: the Wayland compositor doing compositing) you can also check out swayfx. Personally, I use it with kitty and waybar.

iloverocks@feddit.de · 14 pts · 3y (1 reply)

I use hyprland and kitty on my modern desktop and my 12 year old i3 laptop.

If you want to have a really minimal Wayland compositor take a look at dwl

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3y

Thanks, will give dwl a spin as I've been quite comfortable on dwm.

Drito@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Vivarium

Please don't blame the lack of popularity, Vivarium works and its feature complete. The dev answers to the recent github issues.

i3-like WMs are underfeatured and Hyprland is less minimal than Vivarium.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Thanks, looks cool.

I find i3 & dwm a bit much out of the box and need to remove titles, borders & hide the status bar. Hyprland had a lot going on, will check out Vivarium.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3y
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PAPPP@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 3y (4 replies)

Most of my machines are KDE on X, but I have one where I've been feeling stuff out in Wayland-land. The most appealing thing I've tried has been Hyprland with Waybar. It's a little bit of a kit in traditional WM fashion, but easy to configure from straightforward config files, fairly light, and not "Just like this X WM, but broken because of missing Wayland functionality" (I know, I know, it's not technically Wayland deficiencies, its "not yet complete extensions", because it's all extensions, the Wayland protocol itself does almost nothing).

I've been using Kitty for a terminal emulator and it's pleasing as well.

I haven't found a launcher I love, I have fuzzel right now and the only major issue is it doesn't currently support mouse interaction, and I prefer a "use whichever input device your hand is on at the time" to keyboard-only.

dino@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 3y (2 replies)

How does hyperland configuration compare to sway? Or is it exactly the same?

PAPPP@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 3y

They're both simple text formats, but Hyprland uses a "key = value" type config with section labels. Sway is largely compatible with i3 config files which are more like an unstructured script.

Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 3y

I like sways configuration file more because the naming on hyprland isn't stellar. But hyprland has a config for anything I'd ever need which is awesome.

png@artemis.camp · 1 pts · 3y

Have personally been using KDE Wayland on EndeavourOS for a while, and It's been free of major bugs save for some games going to a black screen after tabbing out of them.

atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml · 9 pts · 3y (3 replies)

stacking wm -> wayfire

tiling wm -> sway [corrected, i don't know what was going through my mind]

terminal emulator -> alacritty or foot

Retiring@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Sway is a tiling wm and wayfire looks like a floating wm to me. I don’t know what a „stacking“ wm is, but afaik you can stack in sway.

atomkarinca@lemmygrad.ml · 1 pts · 3y

thanks for the correction, i don't what i was thinking while writing that. i guess i couldn't decide floating or stacking for wayfire so the whole thing broke down :)

mrvictory1@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y

I thing they meant "floating".

Duckytoast@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 3y (2 replies)

Sway with Alacritty, been my daily driver for the past year.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3y

Thanks, I have i3 & kitty atm so not a huge leap.

lrabbt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y

I just wanted alacrity OSC133 support so much

ComradeDaisy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 3y

I'm personally fond of Sway and Kitty

cow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y

I use sway wm with the foot terminal emulator. If you do not like manual tiling I have heard good things about river wm.

mister_monster@monero.town · 3 pts · 3y (5 replies)

I use sway and foot, which comes with sway.

janWilejan@kbin.social · 3 pts · 3y (4 replies)

foot does not come with sway. why do you think foot comes with sway? foot and sway are unrelated.
they're both good wayland software, though

mister_monster@monero.town · 1 pts · 3y (3 replies)

I'm pretty certain that foot is the default terminal for swaywm.

janWilejan@kbin.social · 4 pts · 3y (2 replies)

interesting.
the default config file is basically "Drew's preferences watered down a bit for a general audience"
alacritty used to be Drew's preferred terminal for sway.
sway does not come packaged with any terminal.

Retiring@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Manjaro sway comes with foot. Maybe he/she meant that…

Vilian@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 3y

fedora sway too

biblbrox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y (1 reply)

I am using kde with wayland. Works pretty well. Even with nvidia 3080.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 3y

May give KDE another spin someday when I have a machine better suited but not for this potato.

PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 3y (1 reply)

I like puppy linux as a distro for old laptop refurb, starts lean and mean, allowing older laptops to recapture some of their former glory.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 3y

Void is my plan. I went with Fedora last time as I couldn't be bothered setting up Void properly and Fedora was the only distro with a generic kernel that seemed old mac trackapd/keyboard friendly at time. I've not tried Puppy for a long time, I tend to opt for AntiX or Porteus in that kinda area.

Iamnotyourbroom@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Labwc is really a decent window manager that can pretty much be used on its own without a panel (I think). I think foot is pretty fast, but I just use gnome console, because I'm a savage.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3y

Cheers, will give it a look

Certainity45@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 3y (1 reply)

Try RedoxOS: https://www.redox-os.org/faq/

If you're into developing or willing to learn Rust, it can even offer you a paid summerjob. RedoxOS runs even on Pentium III.

SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 3y

Cheers, looks interesting but don't think it can cover my daily drivers needs.