I agree that hydroxile hydride is the best, but the dihydro ether one is wrong. Ethers are defined by carbon bound to oxygen. No carbon bound to oxygen? No ether!
Hydroxyl hydride feels wrong given that hydride is H-. So what's a good name for HO+...? Oxenium hydride? Hydrenium hydride? (comparing carbonium (CR4H+) vs carbenium (CR3+) and oxonium/hydronium (H3O+))
Good point, maybe hydroxonium for OH+? I just know I never want to be in the same lab as a real OH+ species. Sounds like one of those "things I don't want to work with"
-onium is usually an extra group/proton (carbonium, oxonium, bromonium...). HO+ isn't too hard to approximate--just take a hydroperoxide or peroxyacid and add strong acid like with piranha :)
I think oxenium hydride would be more appropriate than hydroxyl taking into account the polarity of the two fragments (HO+ and H-), though AFAIK there is no standardized name for HO+.
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FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 1y
Beware of Dihydrogen Monoxide. It’s very dangerous!!!
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Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 23 pts · 1y
I agree that hydroxile hydride is the best, but the dihydro ether one is wrong. Ethers are defined by carbon bound to oxygen. No carbon bound to oxygen? No ether!
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 1y
Hydroxyl hydride feels wrong given that hydride is H-. So what's a good name for HO+...? Oxenium hydride? Hydrenium hydride? (comparing carbonium (CR4H+) vs carbenium (CR3+) and oxonium/hydronium (H3O+))
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1y
Good point, maybe hydroxonium for OH+? I just know I never want to be in the same lab as a real OH+ species. Sounds like one of those "things I don't want to work with"
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 1y
-onium is usually an extra group/proton (carbonium, oxonium, bromonium...). HO+ isn't too hard to approximate--just take a hydroperoxide or peroxyacid and add strong acid like with piranha :)
xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 1y
Here's some other dank names from the Wikipedia info card thing:
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 1y
Hydrol sounds like bottled water you'd buy at the pharmacy
Anomalocaris@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 1y
Star rust is also a cool name
leftzero@lemmynsfw.com · 9 pts · 1y
Oxidane.
logicbomb@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Doesn't an acid have to be an acid, though?
pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de · 44 pts · 1y
brokenlcd@feddit.it · 9 pts · 1y
amphotericity is some weird shit, so yes. Water also an acid. (100% butchered the translation)
logicbomb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
In that situation, is it called hydroxic acid, as OP says?
CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
yes, but also in other situations too. It's a valid name for water.
DoubleSpace@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y
It can behave like an acid by donating a proton when mixed with a stronger base.
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 1y
When you mix it with water, it'll form a hydronium ion, what else do you need?
ornery_chemist@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 1y
I think oxenium hydride would be more appropriate than hydroxyl taking into account the polarity of the two fragments (HO+ and H-), though AFAIK there is no standardized name for HO+.
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y
Clearly I didn’t pay attention in chemistry
toynbee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Where?