I'm not familiar with the term "neoclassical liberal", but in the US:
"Social liberal" means liberal on social issues (people should be able to do what they want, government shouldn't police morality or sex, against segregation and discrimination) but not on other issues (eg. national defense, economics, criminal law).
Whereas "progressive social Democrat" is in favor of actively correcting social ills, eg. with affirmative action hiring, better public education, comprehensive sex ed; while also holding left-wing economic positions and otherwise falling in line with the DNC.
I think in Germany, 'sozialliberal' usually refers to being liberal in general, except for being pro social regulations / markets. So I guess it means everything and nothing 🤷
I'm not actually sure there's been a time and place where all three of these coexisted, and named ideologies can mean pretty massively different things depending on context.
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tdgoodman@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 1y
I came here looking for the punch line, then realized this was not !dadjokes@lemmy.world
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
I'm tryin', man. Honest.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Let's workshop this. "One's a crusty bus station... Oh wait wrong joke."
Nemo@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 1y
I'm not familiar with the term "neoclassical liberal", but in the US:
"Social liberal" means liberal on social issues (people should be able to do what they want, government shouldn't police morality or sex, against segregation and discrimination) but not on other issues (eg. national defense, economics, criminal law).
Whereas "progressive social Democrat" is in favor of actively correcting social ills, eg. with affirmative action hiring, better public education, comprehensive sex ed; while also holding left-wing economic positions and otherwise falling in line with the DNC.
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I think in Germany, 'sozialliberal' usually refers to being liberal in general, except for being pro social regulations / markets. So I guess it means everything and nothing 🤷
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 4 pts · 1y
A social liberal is a neoclassical liberal who has been arrested. A neoclassical liberal is a social liberal who got a larger than expected tax bill.
fodor@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1y
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y
I'm not actually sure there's been a time and place where all three of these coexisted, and named ideologies can mean pretty massively different things depending on context.
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 1y
That's easy: nothing but the pattern of the doormats they are.
Some examples,
... among other timeless gems.
jackalope@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
Words have no inherent meaning apart from use. Quibbling over semantics, as if you can finely slice reality, is a waste of time.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Oh god, this is so way beyond my grasp of politics.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
The answer is probably that most of them don't exist.