That is literally not how that works. You said "a lot of atheists" and "most Christians". You're gonna need numbers to back that up, otherwise don't make unfalsifiable claims.
Is this... is this your idea of a strawman? I didn't say that, but more importantly I don't even care if that's true or not; I simply don't like circlejerking and self-fellating, so if you're going to say "we're better than them y'all!" you better back that up with evidence.
I mean, if we're gonna talk politics then on the other hand we have literally the entire history of China and the Soviet Union. I mean you have an explicitly anti-religious genocide going on in China right now.
Those were done by atheist rulers, but not in the name of atheism.
Atheism is way too nebulous a concept to be its own driver of atrocious conduct so the latter is straight up not a thing, and it doesn't need to be. Crimes committed by people in the name of ideologies which explicitly reject religion (something something "religion is the opium of the masses") are equally potent in refuting the idea that atheists are more moral than religious people. Otherwise, most hate crimes in America are not, in fact, explicitly committed in the name of Christianity; race is by far the most common motivator.
This is an interesting-ish article, but it's not saying what it thinks it's saying. When believing in heaven and hell and that there's only one true religion are considered marks of immorality, it's not surprise that it'll rate religious people lower than atheists. This is a measurement of how close different people and societies are to secular, Enlightenment-era European values, not how "moral" those people and societies are. None of this has anything to do with how likely these groups are to help a stranger.
They're pretty fun. Except for the sexism, homophobia, and various other forms of bigotry. My favorite ones are those in which there's some Satanic conspiracy to steal a soul by tempting them with a good time.
I've seen them in the wild twice in my life. Once in a packet left on my door. They know I'm Jewish so that was 'fun'. The second time someone (not the people at the office) left an entire stack of random ones at my gyno's office and I took every single fucking one.
I was sad the D&D one wasn't among the stack. We did get an amazing Thanksgiving one though.
I remember there was a movie that showed what was going to happen in the apocalypse. I just remember the disturbing imagery about a guy dying from a motorcycle accident, people rotting in hell, demons whipping people, crazy stuff.
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sheridan@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
I used to hand these out when I was like 10. cringe
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Geodad@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · -1 pts · 1y
[Citation needed]
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
First search hit (there are thousands like this):
Texas pastor says gay people should be βshot in the back of the headβ in shocking sermon
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna32748
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 0 pts · 1y
That is literally not how that works. You said "a lot of atheists" and "most Christians". You're gonna need numbers to back that up, otherwise don't make unfalsifiable claims.
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Oh honey! Are you trying to validate your narrative that Christians are nice people?
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Letβs try this, show me articles about atheists committing hate crimes against minorities.
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NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · -2 pts · 1y
Is this... is this your idea of a strawman? I didn't say that, but more importantly I don't even care if that's true or not; I simply don't like circlejerking and self-fellating, so if you're going to say "we're better than them y'all!" you better back that up with evidence.
Geodad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 0 pts · 1y
I mean, if we're gonna talk politics then on the other hand we have literally the entire history of China and the Soviet Union. I mean you have an explicitly anti-religious genocide going on in China right now.
Geodad@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 1 pts · 1y
Atheism is way too nebulous a concept to be its own driver of atrocious conduct so the latter is straight up not a thing, and it doesn't need to be. Crimes committed by people in the name of ideologies which explicitly reject religion (something something "religion is the opium of the masses") are equally potent in refuting the idea that atheists are more moral than religious people. Otherwise, most hate crimes in America are not, in fact, explicitly committed in the name of Christianity; race is by far the most common motivator.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
https://mountainsrivers.com/2024/08/12/are-atheists-more-moral-than-most-christians/
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 0 pts · 1y
This is an interesting-ish article, but it's not saying what it thinks it's saying. When believing in heaven and hell and that there's only one true religion are considered marks of immorality, it's not surprise that it'll rate religious people lower than atheists. This is a measurement of how close different people and societies are to secular, Enlightenment-era European values, not how "moral" those people and societies are. None of this has anything to do with how likely these groups are to help a stranger.
Geodad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
How did they get you into it?
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
Haven't seen one in many years, but used to find them on the car in the 70s and 80s.
Balerion@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y
I literally found one (or something similar? I don't recall exactly) on my doorstep earlier this year. They're very much still a thing.
Geodad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Good man
Sergio@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 1y
They're pretty fun. Except for the sexism, homophobia, and various other forms of bigotry. My favorite ones are those in which there's some Satanic conspiracy to steal a soul by tempting them with a good time.
Wahots@pawb.social · 6 pts · 1y
My favorite one is the "My Ancestor" one
https://preview.redd.it/fnrdwo0gk1m41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=749b9d3ee7bacab7e4371da983b5f2d154e1fa2f
I want that shirt, unintentionally goes hard.
cornshark@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Which one? My Ancestor, or Drugs?
Wahots@pawb.social · 2 pts · 1y
My ancestor!
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Which one? π
I like βDrugs β οΈβ but βSeXβ is a close second.
Plum@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
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Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
I remember these stupid things as a kid.
I did just go down a Wikipedia rabbit hole and the history of Tijuana Bibles is pretty interesting!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana_bible
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 1y
RebekahWSD@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I've seen them in the wild twice in my life. Once in a packet left on my door. They know I'm Jewish so that was 'fun'. The second time someone (not the people at the office) left an entire stack of random ones at my gyno's office and I took every single fucking one.
I was sad the D&D one wasn't among the stack. We did get an amazing Thanksgiving one though.
El_guapazo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I remember there was a movie that showed what was going to happen in the apocalypse. I just remember the disturbing imagery about a guy dying from a motorcycle accident, people rotting in hell, demons whipping people, crazy stuff.
Maybe it was in Spanish?
Widdershins@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I found one at a gas station once
Geodad@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
mars_hardcore@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 1y
There's also at least two Cthulhu mythos ones! These are parodies, not official tracts!
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=135
http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/06/26/lovecraft-chick-tract/hpl1jpg/
I think there was also a fantastic four one...