A Wikipedia scan by a layman (me) seems to say that is something that happened after their divergence from a common ancestor.
The dog's similarity to the grey wolf is the result of substantial dog-into-wolf gene flow,[3] with the modern grey wolf being the dog's nearest living relative.
The dog is a wolf-like canid.[7][8][9] The genetic divergence between the dog's ancestor and modern wolves occurred between 20,000 and 40,000 years ago, just before or during the Last Glacial Maximum[2][1] (20,000–27,000 years ago). This timespan represents the upper time-limit for the commencement of domestication because it is the time of divergence but not the time of domestication, which occurred later.
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crazycraw@crazypeople.online · 107 pts · 1y
inside of all of us are two wolves.
except Mozart, he had like ten or twelve.
That's why he's Wolfgang.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 1y
Also Theophilus and Amadeus. That guy really loved god.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 17 pts · 1y
Holy crap. This is the best shower thought I’ve read. Good job! I’m gonna share this with others.
Green_Mouse@piefed.social · 9 pts · 1y
Didn't wolves and dogs descend from a shared ancestor, not dogs from wolves?
GoatTnder@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
Nope, genetically wolves and dogs are basically identical. Dogs are simply hundreds of generations of domesticated wolves.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1y
A Wikipedia scan by a layman (me) seems to say that is something that happened after their divergence from a common ancestor.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y
You are correct. The ancestor of the modern dog is a now-extinct gray wolf different from the ones around today.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 5 pts · 1y
How is that an upper-limit for domestication?
Couldn't, theoretically, domestication of the ancestor wolves cause the divergence?
sik0fewl@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1y
The same article says they are the same species (different subspecies) 🤷♂️.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
One could theoretically create a Chihuahua/wolf hybrid. Imagine a 150lb. wolf with the brains and attitude of a Chihuahua. The mind boggles.
fubo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Chihuahuolf.
cloudless@piefed.social · 3 pts · 1y
fubo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Chiwolfhua.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 1y
Dogs and wolves are the same specie - just a different subspecie. A Chihuahua could breed with a wolf.
SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1y
Christ, what spawn of hell that pairing would make.
VonReposti@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 1y
Hopefully a chihuahua-sized wolf and not a wolf-sized chihuahua.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
As I understand it yes, but that's why I said it was an oversimplification in my post.
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 1y
I believe that, in reality, wolves domesticated themselves. They started hanging around humans because it was a mutually beneficial arrangement.