I explained more here, but leftists oppose NATO because NATO is the millitary alliance of the world's imperialist powers. This group of countries uses this alliance to prevent the global south from going against it and liberating themselved from foreign plunder via overwhelming financial domination. The way imperialism tends to work in the modern day is countries like the US, France, Germany, UK, etc expropriate vast wealth from countries in the global south, similar to how capitalists steal value created by the working class.
African nations welcome the investment with open arms. You can say what you like about China and Russia, but western colonialism casts a long shadow and Africans haven't forgotten about it. Beijing and Moscow aren't growing their influence in Africa by the sword. That's the difference.
The PRC and Russian Federation don't financially dominate Africa. For the PRC, it's because they don't have a domination of their econlmy by private financial capital, they have a socialist market economy. The PRC stands to gain more from mutual benefit, especially since developing others improves trade circulation and provides more customers for goods they produce. Even ignoring ideological reasons like being Marxist-Leninists, they lack the economic compulsion.
For Russia, it's because they outright lack the financial capital to participate. Russia, for all of its productive capacity, fell dramatically from their heights as the Soviet Union. Russia needs to offer more favorable trades, as they cannot rely on the sheer overwhelming financial power the west has. As a capitalist country, it has every reason to want to be imperialist, but it can't, and as such it is forced to strategically align itself with socialist countries and against western imperialism. Further, KPRF membership is skyrocketing, meaning a return to socialism is legitimately increasing.
I'm gonna need more than your word to believe that. Cause I'm not exactly going to believe the same thing Putin spouts as he attacks another neighboring country for their resources.
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not_that_guy05@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 363d
If you are gonna add musk, at least put the correct flag of South Africa and trump as US. JFC amateurs.
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 363d
South Africa are part of the allied powers now. They sued Israel for their genocide at the ICC.
Musk is just a former parasite of them.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 363d
What do mean? It's right there to the left of the letters USA....
theron29@witter.cz · 0 pts · 363d
@bubblybubbles Nope.... Just nope.... ðŸ˜
But nice try...
Bassman27@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 363d
Why NATO?
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 363d
I explained more here, but leftists oppose NATO because NATO is the millitary alliance of the world's imperialist powers. This group of countries uses this alliance to prevent the global south from going against it and liberating themselved from foreign plunder via overwhelming financial domination. The way imperialism tends to work in the modern day is countries like the US, France, Germany, UK, etc expropriate vast wealth from countries in the global south, similar to how capitalists steal value created by the working class.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 6 pts · 363d
Amen.
Bassman27@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 363d
Oh much like china and Russia financially dominate Africa?? I understand now thank you
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 363d
African nations welcome the investment with open arms. You can say what you like about China and Russia, but western colonialism casts a long shadow and Africans haven't forgotten about it. Beijing and Moscow aren't growing their influence in Africa by the sword. That's the difference.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 363d
The PRC and Russian Federation don't financially dominate Africa. For the PRC, it's because they don't have a domination of their econlmy by private financial capital, they have a socialist market economy. The PRC stands to gain more from mutual benefit, especially since developing others improves trade circulation and provides more customers for goods they produce. Even ignoring ideological reasons like being Marxist-Leninists, they lack the economic compulsion.
For Russia, it's because they outright lack the financial capital to participate. Russia, for all of its productive capacity, fell dramatically from their heights as the Soviet Union. Russia needs to offer more favorable trades, as they cannot rely on the sheer overwhelming financial power the west has. As a capitalist country, it has every reason to want to be imperialist, but it can't, and as such it is forced to strategically align itself with socialist countries and against western imperialism. Further, KPRF membership is skyrocketing, meaning a return to socialism is legitimately increasing.
bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 363d
NATO is nothing but a hostile organization to push western imperialism
sleeplessone@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 363d
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 363d
I'm gonna need more than your word to believe that. Cause I'm not exactly going to believe the same thing Putin spouts as he attacks another neighboring country for their resources.
bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 363d
https://www.workers.org/2024/06/79046/
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 363d
Provoked the war in Ukraine? Yea.... OK. That source became pretty uncredible with that line.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 363d
Why do you think the war in Ukraine started? How could it have been avoided?
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 363d
Perhaps Russia could have not attacked? Nah, too complicated.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 363d
That didn't answer either question, though. Why do you think the war started? How could it have been avoided?
Bassman27@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 363d
Cringe
bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 363d
🪞
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 363d
Yeah we only like Eastern imperialism!
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 363d
Because OP loves Putin.
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · -2 pts · 363d
Because OP is a 14 year old troll 🧌.
Taalnazi@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 363d
Add Russia instead of NATO and it is correct.
Fuck Russia for promoting fascism!