Putin agreed to let US, Europe offer NATO-style security protections for Ukraine, Trump envoy says

https://apnews.com/article/trump-witkoff-ukraine-russia-putin-war-048aa829a69b4020ca368577bfe18aee

NEW YORK (AP) — Special U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff said Sunday that Russian leader Vladimir Putin agreed at his summit with President Donald Trump to allow the U.S. and European allies to offer Ukraine a security guarantee resembling NATO’s collective defense mandate as part of an eventual deal to end the 3 1/2-year war.

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random_character_a@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Didn't Ukraine already have one of those when they gave up their nukes? Much good did that do.

illi@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 1y

The issue was those never said what happens if someone breakes the treaty.

modernangel@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 1y

Trump is a profligate liar so that weighs about as much as his claims about ivermectin vs. COVID or pretending he didn't know anything about Project 2025

bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com · 25 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It's not up to him to allow such things.

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

"The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it."

Morally, he shouldn't, but maybe he does. 😔

athairmor@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y (2 replies)

“Allow”. They could just step up and do it. What card can he play other than nuclear annihilation? Call his bluff.

npdean@lemmy.today · -8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Call the bluff and risk a nuclear war on home soil for defending a foreign nation?

Nico_198X@europe.pub · 5 pts · 1y

yes. because MAD is intended to be a defensive doctrine. the more you let Putin make it an aggressive doctrine, then you may as well give him whatever he wants. he holds you hostage.

ramble81@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 1y (5 replies)

“Style” — how about just letting them join NATO and be done with it.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y

That might actually be effective, so I'm sure that Trump will be opposed to it, because it won't please Putin to support it.

npdean@lemmy.today · -3 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Ukraine is not going to join NATO, ever.

Something like this was said recently by Trump

Nico_198X@europe.pub · 4 pts · 1y

thankfully, Trump is not eternal.

MBech@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Sure, and Trump also said he'd pull out of NATO. So cementing it as "ever" while his own say on the matter is quite limited, makes me not give half a shit what he thinks.

npdean@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1y

Did you read the news about the recent meeting?

realitista@lemmus.org · 5 pts · 1y

Unfortunately neither what Putin says or what the Trump administration says is worth more than a fart in the wind.