Flipping it back over will be extreamly difficult, probably will require several excavators. Then they will have to inspect the engine, to see if its damaged. If it needs parts, it could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to repair. The truck may need parts or welding as well. They will likely fire the driver who flipped it and replace him with someone. You can learn fairly quick.
I would assume that for operating expensive vehicles like this, you get training on how to use them properly to avoid these kinds of issues. Flipped because they ignored protocol? Well, you already tried teaching them and it didn't take. Try someone else. Did something unexpected come up to make this happen? Now that's potentially valuable knowledge that you want to keep in your crew.
Some people just arent cut out for certain jobs. There is no good reason to ever flip that truck that way. Where i work at the only thing that will really get you fired on the spot is doing something really dumb like this, or putting someone else in an unsafe position. Also a few hundred grand is the low end. If the driver is really dumb and xoesnt cut the engine off as soon as he gets done rolling, he will ruin the entire engine which will cost close to a million just for the engine alone.
It's all optics. Pretend to be the boss, how are you going to explain this to your boss? You can't justify not firing. The current one did it once and its permanently on his record, better to get rid of him and make sure the replacement doesn't cause a problem until this one is forgotten.
Definitly not. They will probably dig under one side or just get a couple of big excvators and chains. I had to flip a few of these in my time, not as big as this one, but ones about half its size.
can the truck still be relied upon? Or does it have to be replaced to avoid future failure? I work in IT, and if something has a hint of being unreliable it gets replaced because the downtime of it failing when needed is more expensive than the replacement, and now you have a spare one in case of surprises
The trucks are very exspensive, ones like in this pic are in the millions. Stuff in this range of price is generally repaired for a long time and kept in service for decades and is built more like industrial equipment. There isnt much on the truck that cannot be replaced. They are also suprisingly strong. This one is probably rated to carry about 80 tons, which means the truck probably weighs atleast as much. So you are looking at 160k ibs before being loaded and over a quarter million pounds when loaded. Every part of that truck has to exceed the shock forces of that at several gs so you can imagine how much of a bitch it is to take off a skid plate or something. You better eat you wheeties. Thats why replacing them is more of a long term process. We have a bunch of 40 ton and some heavier rock trucks like this. We replace them about every 10-20 years but may keep them longer if they are in decent shape. There is no hard limit on their lifespan and generally newer equipment is worse and weaker because of emmisions and saftey equipment. These trucks are more like mining trucks. They usually work in big mines since you have to take the truck apart to transport them on highways or move them on rail. They are not usually worth hauling for smaller jobs because you have to find someone who is willing to assemble and disassemble them.
Many pieces of equipment half this size will have engine replacments, and other major systems replaced in its lifetime. Sometimes axles, transmissions, even cabs and stuff. Companies usually keep some as spares when they get severly damaged to use as parts. This one is probably not damaged as bad as it looks unless they left the engine running after it flipped. The bed is thick steel.
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Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone · 85 pts · 348d
For a mistake that big, someone’s boss gets fired. If you were even able to fuck it up that bad there have already been so many fuck ups.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 348d
Exactly. And what are they going to hire a new crew tomorrow to flip that shit back over again and keep doing business as usual? Lol no.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 348d
Flipping it back over will be extreamly difficult, probably will require several excavators. Then they will have to inspect the engine, to see if its damaged. If it needs parts, it could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to repair. The truck may need parts or welding as well. They will likely fire the driver who flipped it and replace him with someone. You can learn fairly quick.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 348d
It's dumb to fire someone when you just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars teaching them not to do that again.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 348d
Also if you hire someone who can “learn fairly quick”, you’re going to be back in this same position fairly quick.
howrar@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 348d
I would assume that for operating expensive vehicles like this, you get training on how to use them properly to avoid these kinds of issues. Flipped because they ignored protocol? Well, you already tried teaching them and it didn't take. Try someone else. Did something unexpected come up to make this happen? Now that's potentially valuable knowledge that you want to keep in your crew.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 348d
Some people just arent cut out for certain jobs. There is no good reason to ever flip that truck that way. Where i work at the only thing that will really get you fired on the spot is doing something really dumb like this, or putting someone else in an unsafe position. Also a few hundred grand is the low end. If the driver is really dumb and xoesnt cut the engine off as soon as he gets done rolling, he will ruin the entire engine which will cost close to a million just for the engine alone.
Dave2@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 348d
It's all optics. Pretend to be the boss, how are you going to explain this to your boss? You can't justify not firing. The current one did it once and its permanently on his record, better to get rid of him and make sure the replacement doesn't cause a problem until this one is forgotten.
notarobot@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 348d
Its probably easier to disassemble the truck and re assemble right side up than it is to flip it
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 348d
Definitly not. They will probably dig under one side or just get a couple of big excvators and chains. I had to flip a few of these in my time, not as big as this one, but ones about half its size.
notarobot@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 348d
Interesting! TIL
can the truck still be relied upon? Or does it have to be replaced to avoid future failure? I work in IT, and if something has a hint of being unreliable it gets replaced because the downtime of it failing when needed is more expensive than the replacement, and now you have a spare one in case of surprises
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 348d
The trucks are very exspensive, ones like in this pic are in the millions. Stuff in this range of price is generally repaired for a long time and kept in service for decades and is built more like industrial equipment. There isnt much on the truck that cannot be replaced. They are also suprisingly strong. This one is probably rated to carry about 80 tons, which means the truck probably weighs atleast as much. So you are looking at 160k ibs before being loaded and over a quarter million pounds when loaded. Every part of that truck has to exceed the shock forces of that at several gs so you can imagine how much of a bitch it is to take off a skid plate or something. You better eat you wheeties. Thats why replacing them is more of a long term process. We have a bunch of 40 ton and some heavier rock trucks like this. We replace them about every 10-20 years but may keep them longer if they are in decent shape. There is no hard limit on their lifespan and generally newer equipment is worse and weaker because of emmisions and saftey equipment. These trucks are more like mining trucks. They usually work in big mines since you have to take the truck apart to transport them on highways or move them on rail. They are not usually worth hauling for smaller jobs because you have to find someone who is willing to assemble and disassemble them.
Many pieces of equipment half this size will have engine replacments, and other major systems replaced in its lifetime. Sometimes axles, transmissions, even cabs and stuff. Companies usually keep some as spares when they get severly damaged to use as parts. This one is probably not damaged as bad as it looks unless they left the engine running after it flipped. The bed is thick steel.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 348d
Could be the person's first day.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 347d
If you're a supervisor and you send someone out on site with the ability to fuck up this badly, it's your fault.
People need training, supervision and evaluation before you turn them loose on the real stuff.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 348d
Thats a hell of a fuckin memory, I'd want a picture too
glorkon@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 348d
Awww look at it, how cute, it wants belly rubs.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 29 pts · 348d
Its so trusting! I don't know if I can bring myself to eat large trucks anymore.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 2 pts · 348d
Sad Optimus Prime sounds
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 347d
sirico@feddit.uk · 17 pts · 348d
Whats the problem just lift the bed until its right side up
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org · 12 pts · 348d
Just flip the 48 upside down and no one will even notice.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 348d
And if that doesn't work, try it again while violently jiggling the steering back and forth.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 347d
/set gravity=0.01
Then give it a nudge with your foot.
spiffynova@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 348d
"Hold 'RB' to flip... wait, what? How did you do that?"
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
Is this for the Halo 3 Elephant?
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 348d
That’s what all earth movers do when they die.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 348d
Moments later the crew of the 8h was very confused when they got fired.
yamtestuser@piefed.social · 5 pts · 348d
woah
testaccount@piefed.social · 2 pts · 348d
whoa
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 348d
My uncle used to fix trucks like that. Wonder what he think of this pic.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 348d
saving this for trumps third term. thanks.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 2 pts · 348d
Rhetoric matters. Joking about that is halfway to accepting it.