Volvo Begins Production of Fully Electric ES90, Marking a New Chapter in Sustainable Mobility
https://auto1news.com/volvo-begins-production-of-fully-electric-es90-marking-a-new-chapter-in-sustainable-mobility/
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comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 32 pts · 364d
Just FYI:
Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Co. Ltd 浙江吉利控股集团
is not really European. Volvo has been sold to China in 2010.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 20 pts · 364d
People look at me weird when I say Volvo is Chinese but I keep saying it.
comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 11 pts · 364d
Smart is also Chinese and nobody wants to believe it when I tell them.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 363d
Huh, learn something every day, I thought smart were Mercedes? Or am I 15 years out of date?
XM34@feddit.org · 3 pts · 363d
Both of you would be correct. Smart is coowned 50/50 by Mercedes-Benz and a Chinese Company.
Melonpoly@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 364d
How are electric cars a "new chapter in sustainable mobility"? They will still be an incredibly inefficient method of transport compared to all the alternatives.
bluGill@fedia.io · 5 pts · 364d
What alternatives? They are cheaper and more sustainable than any other automobile. They are still worse than walking, biking, and taking public transit - but those are not always options. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. (which isn't to say don't work for better public transit)
Melonpoly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 364d
You ask for alternatives and then provide then? Then you say that when there are no better options then EV's are the best option which doesn't put them in a great light at all.
I think mining the rare metals needed to manufacture lithium batteries to create luxury SUVs and Sedans that'll transport one person at a time is a gross waste of the earth's resources and it's bullshit to call that sustainable.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 363d
For 1% of people you're right, they'll have the desire and fortitude to compromise their lifestyle for not owning their own vehicle.
For the other 99%, moving them away from buying an ice car to an EV car has to be considered an improvement.
I gave up my car for an electric moped, I don't regret it but do suffer in the winter. I'd likely say most people would consider me someone who "needs" a car but I'm making do
13igTyme@piefed.social · 2 pts · 363d
73.5% of unsourced statistics are made up.
pirat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 363d
That doesn't really matter, since 8 out of 5 people suffer from dyscalculia.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 363d
Hah, fair point. Just my opinion, a high percentage of people in this world will not inconvenience themselves by transitioning to a less than ideal transport solution for the the good of the planet.
Hope that's more suitably vague
ThoGot@feddit.org · 3 pts · 364d
Diesel cars?
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 364d
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 364d
It’s also important to note that Volvo is based in Sweden 🇸🇪 with an ev penetration rate of 60%
krimson@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 364d
They only make some engines there afaik.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 364d
MSRP: One meeeelyun dollars