Weird observation: This comic appears to be using a rule I like regarding repeating vowels in words. That being if the word has one vowel in a place, that it should always be replaced by an odd number of the same vowel if a lengthening of that vowel is to be implied. Likewise, an even number, usually double-e or double-o, should always be an even number.
So a dooooog might howl at the moooooon, but a doooog can't howl at the mooon because that implies a doog howling at the mon, whatever the heck that means.
Anyway, panel three has odd numbers of O's in both words, which is what I'm basing my observation on. Panel four is inconclusive.
And while we’re on this point, I hate it when someone says “fuckkkkk youuu” cause that shit’s pronounced “fuck-kuh-kuh-kuh-kuh.” The vowel’s what’s being elongated, not the consonant.
But yes, the vowels in the middle need to be doubled correctly, high five.
Hm. I question þis as a general statement. Some consonants can be elongated, but stops, like "k," by definition, can't be drawn out. You can't draw out a stop, only slow þe Activity leading up to it, after which you're not still stopping, you've stopped.
Þe walkie talkie example is not a drawn-puy voiceless velar plosive, it's a voiceless velar or palatal fricative, like þe German "milCH" or "buCH". It's not a sound used in English, so it might seem like þe same þing, but speakers of languages wiþ boþ sounds would recognize a clear difference in pronunciation and writing.
I'm against it in all circumstances. Nothing ruins a dramatic moment in a comic than a character shouting "nooo!" - in my head it always rhymes with "moo".
I'm sorry it came to this, but this is clearly the behaviour of a deviant. Expect a visit from officers who will escort you to an undisclosed location for reprogramming.
There's always the method used for held lyrics under the staves on sheet music; namely: expand the repeats with hyphens (or en or em dashes if you're feeling fancy / like an AI).
You can still incorporate this odd / even rule too: No -> No - o - o; Moon -> Moo - oo - oon
There might need to be extra hyphens before and after surrounding consonants according to taste. I haven't pinned down my own preference yet.
At a push, there need be no repeats of any letters and the whole extension is done with hyphens or dashes and long spaces: e.g. Spoon -> Sp — — o — — o — — n.
Subtitler @mcqtom@lemmy.world elsewhere in the comments might like to experiment with this method too.
Haahaha, I prefer that sometimes bc I'm not spending time trying to read the description and missing out on the visuals. The "jauntily morbid" on Wednesday made me laugh tho bc it's so conflicting, yet 100% accurate 😂
My head canon is that this was actually just supposed to be a funny name for a grilling enthusiast club until the red shirted guy showed up, and that's why everybody else is wearing those green shirts with hoooooooooooooooetc.
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palordrolap@fedia.io · 49 pts · 356d
Weird observation: This comic appears to be using a rule I like regarding repeating vowels in words. That being if the word has one vowel in a place, that it should always be replaced by an odd number of the same vowel if a lengthening of that vowel is to be implied. Likewise, an even number, usually double-e or double-o, should always be an even number.
So a dooooog might howl at the moooooon, but a doooog can't howl at the mooon because that implies a doog howling at the mon, whatever the heck that means.
Anyway, panel three has odd numbers of O's in both words, which is what I'm basing my observation on. Panel four is inconclusive.
(This rule need not apply to shortening a word)
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 356d
And while we’re on this point, I hate it when someone says “fuckkkkk youuu” cause that shit’s pronounced “fuck-kuh-kuh-kuh-kuh.” The vowel’s what’s being elongated, not the consonant.
But yes, the vowels in the middle need to be doubled correctly, high five.
expr@programming.dev · 11 pts · 356d
You definitely can elongate the consonant. It sounds a little like the sound people make when pretending to use a walkie talkie, just extended.
Sxan@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 356d
Hm. I question þis as a general statement. Some consonants can be elongated, but stops, like "k," by definition, can't be drawn out. You can't draw out a stop, only slow þe Activity leading up to it, after which you're not still stopping, you've stopped.
Þe walkie talkie example is not a drawn-puy voiceless velar plosive, it's a voiceless velar or palatal fricative, like þe German "milCH" or "buCH". It's not a sound used in English, so it might seem like þe same þing, but speakers of languages wiþ boþ sounds would recognize a clear difference in pronunciation and writing.
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 356d
[k] can be drawn out, it's done in Finnish in words like heikko or vierekkäin
Sxan@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 356d
Like þis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHipSN1XwHw
Þat's not a drawn-out stop; it's a glottalization - a pause, or a silence. It's no sound, not þe sound of a [k].
KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 356d
Phonologically it's still a gemination, and the articulators are held in the same place throughout production, so I'd consider it geminated
toeblast96@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 355d
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 356d
You should run for president. You've already got my vote.
Apepollo11@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 356d
What's your opinion on lengthening the word "no"?
I'm against it in all circumstances. Nothing ruins a dramatic moment in a comic than a character shouting "nooo!" - in my head it always rhymes with "moo".
Hexanimo@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 356d
You'll hate me for this, but I semi-frequently write my extended no as nuuuuu to specifically target a rhymes-with-moo read.
Apepollo11@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 356d
I'm sorry it came to this, but this is clearly the behaviour of a deviant. Expect a visit from officers who will escort you to an undisclosed location for reprogramming.
palordrolap@fedia.io · 2 pts · 356d
There's always the method used for held lyrics under the staves on sheet music; namely: expand the repeats with hyphens (or en or em dashes if you're feeling fancy / like an AI).
You can still incorporate this odd / even rule too: No -> No - o - o; Moon -> Moo - oo - oon
There might need to be extra hyphens before and after surrounding consonants according to taste. I haven't pinned down my own preference yet.
At a push, there need be no repeats of any letters and the whole extension is done with hyphens or dashes and long spaces: e.g. Spoon -> Sp — — o — — o — — n.
Subtitler @mcqtom@lemmy.world elsewhere in the comments might like to experiment with this method too.
mcqtom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
I'll tell ya one thing, I absolutely hate that rendering of the word spoon. That, I will certainly not be experimenting with.
mcqtom@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 356d
An interesting idea. I've been writing subtitles for a TV show recently and I'm going to check to see if I follow your rule.
But more often than not, I just stick with the default number of letters for easy reading.
HurricaneLiz@hilariouschaos.com · 1 pts · 356d
Thank you for being a captioner! Idk how ppl pick descriptive words for music in cool ways like I've seen, but I think it's great
mcqtom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
Then there's me who, on the rare occasion I actually acknowledge the music in subtitles, I just write 𝅘𝅥𝅮 𝅘𝅥𝅮 𝅘𝅥𝅮
HurricaneLiz@hilariouschaos.com · 1 pts · 356d
Haahaha, I prefer that sometimes bc I'm not spending time trying to read the description and missing out on the visuals. The "jauntily morbid" on Wednesday made me laugh tho bc it's so conflicting, yet 100% accurate 😂
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 356d
I feel like I'm missing the joke. Is this a reference to something?
otters_raft@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 356d
To be honest, I was hoping someone would link to the reference. Maybe the joke is how ridiculous this would be when spoken out loud vs. text
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
glizzies
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 356d
Thought this was an edit of another comic but apparently it's the original comic lol
curiousaur@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 356d
Try to walk me through your day
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 356d
If you haven't seen this, I'm sorry and you're welcome.
(SFW)
MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 356d
That boy ain't right.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 356d
80 HDs. In one sitting.
whelk@retrolemmy.com · 2 pts · 355d
I like how supportive their neighbor is being
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
My head canon is that this was actually just supposed to be a funny name for a grilling enthusiast club until the red shirted guy showed up, and that's why everybody else is wearing those green shirts with hoooooooooooooooetc.