US visa refusal for Palestinian delegation prompts calls to move UN meeting to Geneva
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/08/us-visa-refusal-for-palestinian-delegation-prompts-calls-to-move-un-meeting-to-geneva
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Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 97 pts · 337d
Imagine spending decades building up a supranational institution to buttress your position as global hegemon and then throwing it all away for your genocidal pet project.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 337d
The genocidal pet project is 80 years old.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 337d
And the Christian fascist mental illness has been built through decades of psychological warfare.
Damage@feddit.it · 5 pts · 336d
And It was working so well for them, they just needed to wait and take their time. Now they've decided they can't wait, and managed to attract unwanted attention.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 336d
Doesn't seem to be stopping them, unfortunately.
Damage@feddit.it · 1 pts · 336d
No but it has other consequences
Zorque@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 336d
They dont seem to care too much.
HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net · 54 pts · 337d
Do it. The US threw away its hosting
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 336d
Isn't it next month? Would be a monumental effort to change safely and effectively at this point. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, but it's not very practical.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 8 pts · 336d
According to the article tagline it says its today
Frozengyro@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 336d
Then it's definitely not going to change.
regedit@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 336d
Not with that attitude, it's not!
comrade_twisty@feddit.org · 41 pts · 337d
That’s the goal here.
The Trump admin wants to get rid of the UN, this way they can say we didn’t leave - they left us.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 337d
Trump is a symptom, not the cause.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 337d
Just move the whole organization away from the US. Out of our territory. And if possible remove our veto.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 17 pts · 336d
It's a wild indication of how far things have fallen apart that for so many decades, "the US isn't going to do any crazy fuckery and it's safe to host this vital transnational infrastructure there" was working fine.
Also, completely agree. IDK where the UN should be hosted going forward, but it sure as shit should not be the US.
Tja@programming.dev · 5 pts · 336d
As much damage as the American veto does (especially regarding Israel), I'm afraid of a version where Russia and China run the meetings.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 336d
Move UN somwere else, US is sponsor of Terror, can't be a home for UN. Make USA irrelevant!
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 28 pts · 336d
Good. This was my initial reaction. “Move the meeting somewhere that Trump doesn’t have the authority to block people from attending.”
SirMaple__@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 336d
Please also get rid of the Security Council Veto.
Better yet get rid of the Security Council all together and do everything in the General Assembly. With the 2 thirds majority requirement for passing items.
skibidi@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 336d
UN votes are largely symbolic, they have no actual policy function in almost all cases - member states must create and ratify separate treaties for that.
Removing the veto just leads to the veto-holders even more flagrantly undermining the UN's authority.
Krukenberg@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 336d
League of Nations was bold from time to time. That didnt help. The UN, the security council and the veto rights is all about maintaining the status quo.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 336d
Yeah, i would encourage all international communities to boycott the US entirely until Pedo don is in prison and the nazi's aren't in charge any longer.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 337d
As if this would change anything . That's not the answer. The answer is to keep deviating from the usa policies. Remove all the stupid conditions for a two state solution, stop saying a future palestinian state need to be demiliterized, stop saying israel has the right to defend itself. Impose cuba style sanctions of israel. Countries should stop lying about them stopping selling weapons to israel