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You moved the goalposts. Anyway German police is ...very consistent in applying this. Oh wait https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1488880/maccabi-tel-aviv-sanctioned-by-uefa-for-racist-behavior-of-its-fans-in-germany.html

Fucking UEFA was better at it.

Death to Arabs (indiscriminate) gets you a slap to the wrist and a "formal investigation" that goes nowhere. Death to the Israeli Army (quite discriminate) is another matter.

Other than us crazies on the left, I don't remember anyone giving a fuck when industries were being obliterated in the global south because of WTO rules. All I remember is stories about competitive advantage, English cloth and Portuguese wine.

Classic antisemite, hiding his hard-on for "Israel doing our dirty work" behind Germany's debt for the Holocaust.

Germany does have a special responsibility towards Jews. So Germany should open its borders to all Jews who want to leave behind them the Zionist apartheid regime in the land of Palestine and offer them terms better than the Aliya. Make Germany a safe haven for Jews everywhere. You wouldn't want anyone to think you only support Israel to get rid of European Jews, now, do you?

That's a circular definition: the Labour government passed laws that defined Palestine Action as terrorists so therefore they are terrorist because the courts said they fit the description of the laws.

The other thing that you seem to have forfeited is a sense of proportionality. So, if you want to go around declaring yourself ...a "terrorist sympathizer", don't let me stop you. I'll keep on insisting that Palestine Action should have never been proscribed in the first place. All of the craziness follows from that first moment of Labour stupidity and overreach.

Thank you for the technical clarification.

The word "terrorist" is not merely a technical designator. It is highly emotionally charged and political. It is a word that evokes hundreds of victims in blind attacks on trains or on buildings and aeroplanes. It evokes fanaticism and destructiveness, frothing hatred and irrational bloodlust. "We do not negotiate with terrorists." Terrorists are the villains in every movie ever. In the wider society, a "terrorist connection" is a connection to all that.

So splitting the legal hairs here is at best irrelevant. We live in a society not a courtroom. The government has slapped the Big Scary Word on a thing it shouldn't have.

And even if this government gets all the benefits of the doubt (personally I really don't think they should) because they are trying their best to balance between impossible political attractors (personally I think they are just enablers of a genocidal apartheid regime for political expediency), the next one or the one after the next one will not hesitate to use the Big Scary Word not as a technical designator but as a political sledgehammer.