Windows 10 users were right: Microsoft admits its end of support was the real Windows 11 sales driver
https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/07/31/windows-10-users-were-right-microsoft-admits-its-end-of-support-was-the-real-windows-11-sales-driver/
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TommySoda@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 16d
Not only that, they used it as a way to have offices upgrade to Windows 11 for the never specified reason of "cyber security" which is where most of their sales come from. The company I work for just had to replace 15 computers at the start of the year and now half of the older software we use doesn't work anymore. Not only that but we were using Office 2019 with a perpetual license that they invalidated so now we have to get Microsoft 365
gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 16d
Same here, now we have to replace countless testing PCs because they don't have TPM 2. In our case migrating the software wasn't that difficult, but still a shame to throw out perfectly good hardware. And due to paranoid internal regulations, the PCs are to be fully shredded as well...
TommySoda@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 16d
Yeah I asked my boss if I could take one home and turn it into a Linux machine for testing and he said the same thing. He even wanted photo evidence that they were destroyed.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 16d
Why not just destroy the drives? The mobo, cpu, ram, and PSU should be ok to reuse.
gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 14d
you overestimate the technical understanding of the person that made the "shred all decommissioned computers" rule
vrek@programming.dev · 1 pts · 16d
The other side of this is anyone who can't afford a computer, may use your software and you can't really know if it works without tpm2.
manualoverride@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 16d
They invalidated a perpetual licence? How?
Flaqueman@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 16d
Greedily
TommySoda@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 16d
They already did it for Mac but from what I've been told by our IT guy that it'll be all of Office 2019 here pretty soon. Take it with a grain of salt because the IT guy might just be covering his bases before something gets fucked up and he gets blamed for it.
manualoverride@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 16d
I’ve just read they ended support and won’t be providing security updates, so given how quickly new vulnerabilities are being discovered I guess a business can’t keep a known vulnerability on the network.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 15d
We moved to LibreOffice
It’s an adjustment, but so is a jump between versions of office.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 16d
Also they are still releasing Windows 10 updates.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 16d
And not just security updates, as they said, but (minor) 'feature' updates as well.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 16d
Honestly this is Win10's best time, they don't keep fixing things that aren't broken.
Strider@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 16d
Planned obsolescence, massive costs for victims, massive environmental damage, yet no consequences.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 16d
They sometimes get consequences, say in the EU, but then the orange idiot starts crying about "unfair [word salad] tariffs" and... well, yeah, no consequences.
Strider@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 16d
Correct and in the best case they get a relevant percentage penalty which actually means something. Maybe, just maybe, it could improve in that direction.
axh@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 16d
I thought it was Linux sales driver... I mean installs driver
EonNShadow@pawb.social · 1 pts · 15d
Unlike the drivers they don't include anymore in fresh windows installs (ie, if you need to reinstall on a Lenovo or Dell laptop)
Drives me fucking insane that I have to go download network drivers separately after a fresh install. What is this, Ubuntu in 2008?
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 15d
I haven't appreciated or enjoyed a single thing about windows 11.
Not a single thing.
I've hated at least a dozen changes profusely, though.
uniquethrowagay@feddit.org · 4 pts · 14d
The new file explorer finally has tabs. It's also a lot slower, but it has tabs!
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15d
The only thing I appreciated was that night light mode was surprisingly less janky on 11 than 10. Everything else can go fuck itself xD
(These were on work computers. Id never actually run them on my PC lolol)
MolochAlter@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 9d
I found 3: my Bluetooth headphones started working correctly (toggling between call and high quality mode automatically), the centered start menu is nicer and I even set it up on KDE plasma, and winget, though I have no idea if it exists on 10.
rozodru@piefed.world · 6 pts · 16d
the other week I found a Windows 11 install USB I had in the back of a drawer. I decided "meh let me install this on a separate 250gb drive and see how it is, it's been awhile since I used windows" massive. mistake.
I created a MS account and was immediately slammed with microsoft spam. sign up for this ,sign up for that, buy this, buy that, etc etc etc. immediately, i hadn't even finished the install. next the updates. constant and slow. reboot after reboot as certain updates wouldn't work unless a previous one was installed. drivers that wouldn't install unless an MS update was installed first. AND then to top off the pain of it all Windows decided "hey i'm gonna update your bios while I'm here" and borked that to the point where now the FN keys on the laptop I used are now "backwards" affecting my other linux installs on the machine.
never again. it was an awful experience and once it had finished updating everything I immediately nuked the drive.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 15d
I mean, you kinda did that to yourself...
Obligatory Windows 11 is absolute trash.
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 15d
i got a copilot button now! It automatically presses some key combination I could have just used before! But I lost the menu key!
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 16d
It was the last straw for me to switch back to Linux after 15 years and I'm eternally grateful for that. Thanks Microsoft.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 16d
Almost like their consistent hamfisted greed and bullshit marketing were somehow predictable after forty fucking years as a monopoly.
87Six@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 15d
upgrading is goy behavior
666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 14d
Are you saying i'm jewish for not upgrading?