You’re welcome, as a member of the CIA I have a large list of groups I condone violence against. Nazis are just one of the few groups that actually deserve it
You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence. It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc
You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence.
Trump needs addressing, what do you suggest?
It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc.
Understand where you are coming from here, but this goes against free speech. If you give authorities this ability they will abuse it. What if they claim supporting Palestine makes you part of a hate group?
Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.
Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that's currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified.. what about Charlie's right to free speech?
Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I'm suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism
Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.
There is never a singular cause, and there is never a single solution I agree.
Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that's currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified.. what about Charlie's right to free speech?
You wanted to ban certain groups you define as hate groups/symbols, my counterpoint to that is where do you draw the line, what exactly constitutes a hate group?
Freedom of speech allows people to say some horrible shit true, but do you wanna spend the rest of time arguing where the line should be drawn. What absolute definition exists here that covers all hate groups and reduces extremism, without taking away rights from the average person. I personally don't think such a solution exists which is why I support freedom of speech.
Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I'm suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism
It's very easy to make this point when you cannot provide a solution. Sitting on the fence and telling everyone what is wrong doesn't fix anything IMO. I don't disagree with your notion, he didn't deserve to be shot in front of the world like that, no one does... But demanding we ban hate groups without considering how we do that isn't helpful either, neither is pointing out its wrong to shoot people, we already know this.
If you can provide a solution that prevents all of this I'm happy to talk about it.
There's obviously a clear difference between assassinating someone or just saying "well I guess we'll just let them do their thing". If they perform violence, you have your justice system. You need to address the cause of why people are being recruited.. and obviously stop the recruitment. Just killing people is not the answer
@52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org dislikes your content and wants you to face justice! But he won't say what form that justice should take or why he dislikes your content or why my intervention would be necessary! What should I do ??
I did not promote any violence, the violence in this case already happened.
I was merely constructing commentary art of a major event.
I find it fascinating that he thinks this piece of art is promoting violence, but i assume there just wasnt a "i dislike this person getting called a fascist button".
So much for freedom of speech.
If he had balls, he would have commented something along the lines "I dont think Kirk was a fascist, jet the drop of the mic is a great way of symbolizing the end of free speech", instead of reporting art over a made up reason.
@52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org I guess you're too busy to justify your demands. Well, whenever you can find the time, go ahead and articulate a thought or two.
wow! it's 52 fighters! like not 51 but 52. I can handle 51 fighters unspecified action like reporting me for promotion of violence, but 52 it's too much.
40 Comments
Mac@mander.xyz · 29 pts · 341d
Everyone says to punch Nazis but then a Nazi gets punched and it's all "i dont condone violence 😢".
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 341d
Nazis are never murdered. They simply die of natural causes.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 332d
Lead poisoning is an epidemic amongst facist populations. And since the FDA is anti vaccination I’m betting it’s going to make a comeback
b_rain@troet.cafe · 2 pts · 332d
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
Hey man, you laugh but in the 60s we may or may not have tested that out while really high on LSD
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 341d
I personally condone violence against Nazis
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 341d
Thank you for your input CIA_chatbot.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
You’re welcome, as a member of the CIA I have a large list of groups I condone violence against. Nazis are just one of the few groups that actually deserve it
lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 341d
It really do be like that.
Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org · -1 pts · 341d
Yeah but punching a Nazi doesn't stop more Nazi's.. violence is a shit way to deal with the severe health and cultural issues that you have in America
Noite_Etion@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 341d
So how do you stop Nazis then?
khornechips@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 341d
Just give them everything they want and they’ll learn their lesson.
Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org · 2 pts · 341d
You need to address culturally why there is a resurgence. It probably would also help to ban the ability of hate groups to congregate / show their symbols etc
Noite_Etion@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
Trump needs addressing, what do you suggest?
Understand where you are coming from here, but this goes against free speech. If you give authorities this ability they will abuse it. What if they claim supporting Palestine makes you part of a hate group?
Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 341d
Trump was democratically elected TWICE. He is a symptom of the dysfunction in American, not the only cause of it.
Often the 1st and second amendments are screeched out at the heavens of needing to be protected. Look where that's currently got america, thinking that killing someone is justified.. what about Charlie's right to free speech?
Im not suggesting there is an easy or quick fix. I'm suggesting resorting to killing people you disagree with is a quick fire way to fuel and increase extremism
Noite_Etion@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 341d
There is never a singular cause, and there is never a single solution I agree.
You wanted to ban certain groups you define as hate groups/symbols, my counterpoint to that is where do you draw the line, what exactly constitutes a hate group?
Freedom of speech allows people to say some horrible shit true, but do you wanna spend the rest of time arguing where the line should be drawn. What absolute definition exists here that covers all hate groups and reduces extremism, without taking away rights from the average person. I personally don't think such a solution exists which is why I support freedom of speech.
It's very easy to make this point when you cannot provide a solution. Sitting on the fence and telling everyone what is wrong doesn't fix anything IMO. I don't disagree with your notion, he didn't deserve to be shot in front of the world like that, no one does... But demanding we ban hate groups without considering how we do that isn't helpful either, neither is pointing out its wrong to shoot people, we already know this.
If you can provide a solution that prevents all of this I'm happy to talk about it.
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 341d
World war 2 would beg to differ
Mac@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 341d
So we should let Nazis who platform violence and hate just do their thing and continue to recruit our children?
Suspiciousbrowsing@kbin.melroy.org · 4 pts · 341d
There's obviously a clear difference between assassinating someone or just saying "well I guess we'll just let them do their thing". If they perform violence, you have your justice system. You need to address the cause of why people are being recruited.. and obviously stop the recruitment. Just killing people is not the answer
Mac@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 341d
So we should report the Nazi to the other Nazis and await them to be held accountable?
CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
History proves otherwise
TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 341d
Not gonna throw a little credit to your inspiration? https://lemmy.world/comment/19318826
einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 341d
I wasnt sure if in times where fascist vow to hunt down everyone what wasnt respectful over this event, giving credit was the right thing.
TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 341d
That makes sense! I should probly be a little more careful myself considering this account isn't anonymous
mcz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
Thank you for uncovering copyright infridgement content!
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 341d
Lembot_0004@discuss.online · 8 pts · 341d
MotoAsh@piefed.social · 7 pts · 341d
I'd rather say, those who do not have an actual red line become slaves.
qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 341d
Thank you for creating charged content!
qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 341d
@52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org dislikes your content and wants you to face justice! But he won't say what form that justice should take or why he dislikes your content or why my intervention would be necessary! What should I do ??
einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 341d
I did not promote any violence, the violence in this case already happened. I was merely constructing commentary art of a major event. I find it fascinating that he thinks this piece of art is promoting violence, but i assume there just wasnt a "i dislike this person getting called a fascist button". So much for freedom of speech.
If he had balls, he would have commented something along the lines "I dont think Kirk was a fascist, jet the drop of the mic is a great way of symbolizing the end of free speech", instead of reporting art over a made up reason.
qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 341d
I've decided to shoot you in the head with my gun to shut you up! I think that's what he wants me to do!
52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 299d
You should remove comments that promote violence.
qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 299d
Can you give some examples of comments that you want removed?
52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 297d
https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/42057595/22700986
Specifically, "Killing certain people is just euthanasia."
qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 297d
Why do you believe that comment promotes violence?
qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 295d
@52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org I guess you're too busy to justify your demands. Well, whenever you can find the time, go ahead and articulate a thought or two.
cathfish@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
Thank you for creating non-violent content!
Whatever the definition of violence is. Killing certain people is just euthanasia.
qrstuv@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 341d
It looks like @52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org wants me to take unspecified action against you for some unspecified reason!
cathfish@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 337d
wow! it's 52 fighters! like not 51 but 52. I can handle 51 fighters unspecified action like reporting me for promotion of violence, but 52 it's too much.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 341d
Frankly, this one should be chalked up to “natural causes”
cathfish@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d
Absolutely. Or maybe logical cause (if it's a thing)