I think that in most jurisdictions, it wouldn't be legal to take someone's gun and then shoot them with it. Once they'd been disarmed, they may no longer pose a threat. However, if you pulled out your own gun and shot them, this would be self defense, as they were still a threat when you attacked.
Morally, I think many religions claim they're objective and say that killing is wrong. However, they often carve out exceptions.
My own subjective morality in this case would agree that this is immoral, as the robber has been disarmed. However, its impossible to be sure they're really no longer a threat.
It's the "I'm a hero!" at the end of the comic that sets the tone for what this is about.
By celebrating his act, self defense guy is showing that he specifically enjoyed it enough to celebrate his act afterwards. It's the difference between killing someone in self defense and killing someone in self defense then teabagging the corpse. Only one of these situations demonstrates a completely lack of empathy.
So, to address your comment directly, this isn't a comment about self defense and all its myriad variations. It's about the celebration of loss of life that happens whenever these situations come up.
18 Comments
logicbomb@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 341d
The amount of money in his wallet is irrelevant to the underlying moral question.
DaGeek247@fedia.io · 24 pts · 341d
But it really does highlight the moral in question better when it's a small amount.
Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 341d
The question being: Is property inherently more valuable than a human life?
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 341d
The question is are you justified to use deadly force, if somebody threatens you with a deadly weapon.
whosepoopisonmybuttocks@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 341d
I think that in most jurisdictions, it wouldn't be legal to take someone's gun and then shoot them with it. Once they'd been disarmed, they may no longer pose a threat. However, if you pulled out your own gun and shot them, this would be self defense, as they were still a threat when you attacked.
Morally, I think many religions claim they're objective and say that killing is wrong. However, they often carve out exceptions.
My own subjective morality in this case would agree that this is immoral, as the robber has been disarmed. However, its impossible to be sure they're really no longer a threat.
However however however.
Shayeta@feddit.org · 3 pts · 341d
No, nothing has any inherent value, we are the ones who assign value.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
That's an easy one.
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 341d
Can't tell if leftist or libertarian
lobut@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 341d
I think the joke is that he risked his life for 6 bucks. Not that poor people deserve to die ...
MrSmith@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 341d
I think "the joke" is that people in the US will use their gun for "self-defence", even if all they have to defend is 6 bucks.
Sort of like that kid, that I don't remember the name of, who drove miles with an assault rifle to "defend" himself.
wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 341d
FTFY
You don't need his name. He doesn't deserve to be remembered.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 341d
Ah, I didn't think of it from that angle, that's good!
Karjalan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
It's both really
Stupid to risk your life over, insane to murder someone over
Actionschnils@feddit.org · 3 pts · 341d
And calling yoursslf a hero for it
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
And the subtext to that is “Life is cheap” to some people.
mateofeo85@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 341d
lobut@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 341d
Then it'd be a hard joke to sell. :D
mateofeo85@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 341d
Guess people have an inalienable right to assault me because I'm poor. I'll try to keep that in mind going forward 🙏
DaGeek247@fedia.io · 13 pts · 341d
It's the "I'm a hero!" at the end of the comic that sets the tone for what this is about.
By celebrating his act, self defense guy is showing that he specifically enjoyed it enough to celebrate his act afterwards. It's the difference between killing someone in self defense and killing someone in self defense then teabagging the corpse. Only one of these situations demonstrates a completely lack of empathy.
So, to address your comment directly, this isn't a comment about self defense and all its myriad variations. It's about the celebration of loss of life that happens whenever these situations come up.