Airlines Sell 5 Billion Plane Ticket Records to the US Government For Warrantless Searching
https://www.404media.co/airlines-sell-5-billion-plane-ticket-records-to-the-government-for-warrantless-searching/
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FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 342d
The only surprise here is that they're selling it. I thought the government just had access to that info through some FAA regulation or something.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 342d
Third party doctrine. They can buy it without a warrant and buy up all of it at once and do whatever they want with the data. None of it covered by the 4th Amendment.
To use warrant access and get it for free, they need a judge and have to go individual-by-individual citing specific names.
Same reason why the government just buys advertising data now to find out what people are doing online, rather than going the full legal route.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 342d
Ah, that actually makes a lot of sense. I mean it's dumb, but it makes sense.
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 342d
This loophole needs to be closed.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 342d
Tbf, this is legal. Just unethical af.
It goes to show that when you compare the rights of millions of people verses a company making a quick buck, capitalism will win every time.
humanoftheinternet@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 342d
They probably did, but the poor airlines were missing out on that extra revenue.
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 342d
Hey y'all - it's time to learn how to protect your online privacy. This is a perfect example of why "but I have nothing to hide" only enables a surveillance police state.
https://lemmy.ml/c/privacy
https://lemmy.world/c/privacy
silence7@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 342d
With Flock and the airline data sales, its very difficult to protect offline privacy
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 342d
It just occurred to me that public transportation could be advocated for under the idea that it helps the government track people.
That’s a depressing idea.
silence7@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 342d
Pretty much anything more complex than a bicycle has that effect
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d
I now have two big reasons to invest in a bike. 🤔
silence7@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 342d
I strongly recommend getting a fitting and spending some time riding with a local club. The former makes sure you're comfortable, the latter can familiarize you with riding on roads and get you into better shape
GreenShimada@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d
If those are the only two you know about, have I got news for you:
https://www.wired.com/story/phone-data-us-soldiers-spies-nuclear-germany/
https://www.wired.com/story/how-pentagon-learned-targeted-ads-to-find-targets-and-vladimir-putin/
https://www.wired.com/story/pentagon-data-purchases-wyden-letter/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/how-federal-government-buys-our-cell-phone-location-data
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/federal-agencies-are-secretly-buying-consumer-data
ileftreddit@piefed.social · 31 pts · 342d
paraphrand@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d
It isn’t great that we make these assumptions and make comments that say just “duh, we know.” When news is posted about the situation.
ileftreddit@piefed.social · 3 pts · 341d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 341d
its a uniparty, a coalition party at best. which is why you have no issues passing defense budget, and pro-israeli agendas.
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 342d
We are all already tracked and traced 24/7. Nothing surprising here. It's been a police state since the late 2000's.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 342d
You misspelled "early"
who@feddit.org · 2 pts · 341d
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