The US is a product of European colonialism and white centrism. It would be nice, for those of us whose ancestors were already here prior to 1492 and I am sure for those whose ancestors were forced here in the interim, if people would stop trying to pretend that everyone here has culpability in the current state of affairs. Native Americans have literally only had the right to vote since the 70s.
People from Europe seem to expect to not be lumped in with the latest dumbass bullshit from Hungry, or the UK, or even this latest chat control fiasco. Is it really that troublesome that people from a nation made up of dozens of states, reservations, islands, etc want the same?
Edit for your edit: You said terrorist nation, not state.
I mean honestly, US presidents killing random people and families the world over for literally no reason is nothing new. On the scale of Trump stuff, this is pretty minor, as sad as that is to say.
Rumsfeld more or less bragged about it too, a lot of that crowd did. We haven't had a serial killer in the White House for a few years, so it's an adjustment back (and of course Trump is such an overtly vicious person that it'll have a new flavor now), but this stuff is not new for Republicans.
(Actually Biden and Bush Sr. are the only two presidents since Carter that I can remember that weren't fans of blowing up random people directly with US forces for no reason. In Afghanistan they did an airstrike on a wedding.)
I mean, the first war crime had no consequences whatsoever, so why would he stop? I bet we'll see more and more "extremely dangerous narcoterrorists" executed without due process or even a warrant - soon probably also within the US, not just on international waters...
It's shocking how the media just repeat the statements of this government without any questions asked. They're really functioning as propaganda distributors rather than journalists these days. We're seeing it also with them repeating uncritically the FBI's claims about the Charlie Kirk shooting suspect.
The media is really careful about using “alleged” in cases where they obviously dont need to, in order to sow doubt, and not using it in cases where they definitely need to, to pretend that some bullshit narrative is certain even though the opposite is true
Entire seasons of television have had plots based on the U.S. government doing this once, either secretly or by accident, and how they strive to make amends and reparations to avoid international conflict, and it all happens behind closed doors because everyone is terrified of the certainty of scandal should word ever get out. And now here we are.
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Stamets@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 343d
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 343d
The US is a product of European colonialism and white centrism. It would be nice, for those of us whose ancestors were already here prior to 1492 and I am sure for those whose ancestors were forced here in the interim, if people would stop trying to pretend that everyone here has culpability in the current state of affairs. Native Americans have literally only had the right to vote since the 70s.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 343d
So what about your statement makes you challenge the US being a terror state?
Stamets@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 2 pts · 343d
Stamets@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 343d
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 343d
People from Europe seem to expect to not be lumped in with the latest dumbass bullshit from Hungry, or the UK, or even this latest chat control fiasco. Is it really that troublesome that people from a nation made up of dozens of states, reservations, islands, etc want the same?
Edit for your edit: You said terrorist nation, not state.
Stamets@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 343d
Rothe@piefed.social · 2 pts · 343d
It seems so difficult for a lot of Americans to understand that Europe consists of multiple independent countries, while USA is a single country.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 27 pts · 343d
I mean honestly, US presidents killing random people and families the world over for literally no reason is nothing new. On the scale of Trump stuff, this is pretty minor, as sad as that is to say.
astanix@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 343d
Its the bragging about it that is different.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 8 pts · 343d
Rumsfeld more or less bragged about it too, a lot of that crowd did. We haven't had a serial killer in the White House for a few years, so it's an adjustment back (and of course Trump is such an overtly vicious person that it'll have a new flavor now), but this stuff is not new for Republicans.
(Actually Biden and Bush Sr. are the only two presidents since Carter that I can remember that weren't fans of blowing up random people directly with US forces for no reason. In Afghanistan they did an airstrike on a wedding.)
non_burglar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
Exactly. A day in the life of Homelander.
doctortofu@piefed.social · 21 pts · 343d
I mean, the first war crime had no consequences whatsoever, so why would he stop? I bet we'll see more and more "extremely dangerous narcoterrorists" executed without due process or even a warrant - soon probably also within the US, not just on international waters...
greenbelt@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 342d
Is this part of project 2025?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 21 pts · 343d
Alleged cartel boat you dufuses.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 343d
It's shocking how the media just repeat the statements of this government without any questions asked. They're really functioning as propaganda distributors rather than journalists these days. We're seeing it also with them repeating uncritically the FBI's claims about the Charlie Kirk shooting suspect.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 8 pts · 343d
The media is really careful about using “alleged” in cases where they obviously dont need to, in order to sow doubt, and not using it in cases where they definitely need to, to pretend that some bullshit narrative is certain even though the opposite is true
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 343d
"Cartel boat".
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 343d
The last one wasn't a cartel boat. This one probably wasn't either.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 343d
Entire seasons of television have had plots based on the U.S. government doing this once, either secretly or by accident, and how they strive to make amends and reparations to avoid international conflict, and it all happens behind closed doors because everyone is terrified of the certainty of scandal should word ever get out. And now here we are.
motor_spirit@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 343d
pet1t@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
unrelated but FOUND THE GIZZ HEAD!
motor_spirit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 343d
pet1t@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
Next thing you know you lose your kickdrum privileges
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 342d
Bold move admitting to war crimes cotton. Let's see if it pays off.
greenbelt@lemy.lol · 6 pts · 342d
To be honest: I am not holding my breath.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 342d
When have war crimes ever come back to bite a US President? Getting away with it is a long tradition.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 343d
We deserved 9/11
fox2263@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 343d
They could just capture the boat.
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 343d
No shit its a tiny fucking boat. Of course if they did that. Then we all know it was boat of fisherman and not drig dealers.
fox2263@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 342d
A glorious waste of a missile and millions of dollars - let alone the lives lost. They do love wasting money and the violence/evil is the point
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 343d
And fuck every shit stain rag news site that prints "kinetic strike" without quotations.