It wasn't new, but look where we were. The main things are we had spent years reducing the deficit, we didn't have PAC and Super PACs. There is a large difference between then and now.
Foreign policy was similar (well I guess having the president transparently trying to shakedown every country and large corporation on the planet is new). It's just now all starting to be directed inwards (i.e. "imperial boomerang").
2001 was pre Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah we poked in other countries business and did shady stuff. However, we didn't drain our economy fighting a pointless forever war yet.
We’re just more aware now. Why do you think they want to get rid of “leftist media” and censor Wikipedia? Because they mention Charlie Kirk’s racism? Nah buddy it goes WAY deeper than that.
They miss when we all looked at Desert Storm and went “oh well Saddam is bad so I guess we have to do this” instead of “Bibi and Israel are doing a genocide!”
I'm guessing by your instance that you're Canadian?
I was just a (European) kid in 2001, and I believed profoundly that Bush was evil and incompetent, but this did not extend to America as such. I didn't understand enough of American history yet to understand that the current situation was not an anomaly. I don't think I truly understood before after Obama.
Imagine how much better off we’d all be if the US pursued renewables to become truly energy independent so there was no more petrodollar incentive for foreign misadventure. Imagine an end to all the oil wars
Every generation always thinks they're the first...
To anyone who thinks the OP made a good point: you should read about anti-Vietnam war protests. The Kent state massacre might be a good place to start.
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theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 54 pts · 331d
Accurate back then as well.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 331d
The only difference is we had hope we could change it for the better back then.
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 331d
It wasn't new so if you had hope then and none now you weren't looking at all the facts.
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 331d
I was 11 so correct.
IvyisAngy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 331d
Also this.
I started being angry about it about the time I became an adult.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 331d
It wasn't new, but look where we were. The main things are we had spent years reducing the deficit, we didn't have PAC and Super PACs. There is a large difference between then and now.
sobchak@programming.dev · 2 pts · 330d
Foreign policy was similar (well I guess having the president transparently trying to shakedown every country and large corporation on the planet is new). It's just now all starting to be directed inwards (i.e. "imperial boomerang").
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 330d
2001 was pre Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah we poked in other countries business and did shady stuff. However, we didn't drain our economy fighting a pointless forever war yet.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 330d
Vietnam, and Korea...they'd like a word.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 330d
The war that ended in 1975? That was a different era.
4am@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 330d
We’re just more aware now. Why do you think they want to get rid of “leftist media” and censor Wikipedia? Because they mention Charlie Kirk’s racism? Nah buddy it goes WAY deeper than that.
They miss when we all looked at Desert Storm and went “oh well Saddam is bad so I guess we have to do this” instead of “Bibi and Israel are doing a genocide!”
They preferred us blind.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 331d
If we're being real it's only an Okay Satan.
NewDark@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 330d
Great as in Large, because the Little Satan is Israel.
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 330d
MAGFO
cyborganism@piefed.ca · 12 pts · 331d
Yeah, I kinda had it figured out back then as well.
cabbage@piefed.social · 5 pts · 330d
I'm guessing by your instance that you're Canadian?
I was just a (European) kid in 2001, and I believed profoundly that Bush was evil and incompetent, but this did not extend to America as such. I didn't understand enough of American history yet to understand that the current situation was not an anomaly. I don't think I truly understood before after Obama.
cyborganism@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 329d
Yeah, when you're neighbours, have a shared history, and consume the majority of their media, you have a better perspective.
Soapbox@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 330d
Ok Saudi Arabia, pots and kettles buddy.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 330d
Didn't they just give the Great Satan's leader a golden airplane and his kids 2 billion dollars?
apologies, the plane was Qatar.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 5 pts · 330d
Is it Great Satan behavior to bribe The Smelly Vizier of Satan?
I'd have gone with the slavery and sexism thing myself
AA5B@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 330d
Imagine how much better off we’d all be if the US pursued renewables to become truly energy independent so there was no more petrodollar incentive for foreign misadventure. Imagine an end to all the oil wars
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 331d
Satan was the good guy.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 330d
Same with the House of Saud
Ajen@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 329d
Every generation always thinks they're the first...
To anyone who thinks the OP made a good point: you should read about anti-Vietnam war protests. The Kent state massacre might be a good place to start.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings