To be fair, it's probably hard for a black Vulcan to accept and forget the many blatantly racist things that the guy was known for saying about black people.
WTF is Shatner and Beltran even doing? Charlie Kirk and people like him call for the harm and death of people that Star Trek once stood to accept and validate. Fuck them both!
condemning violence is fine, but you don’t have to simultaneously normalize deplorable views.
Shatner has no problem saying we can’t discuss flat earth but for some reason draws the line at christian nationalism and white supremecism. there was a time that was a non starter as well, and the collective milquetoast center left is just enabling that overton window shift even more.
we are literally living through the tolerance paradox and it’s enfuriating.
Yeah, his comment is about not making people who disagree with you "targets." Sure, I largely agree with that. However, when their entire raison d'être was making other people targets then that's the line where you don't get to be the victim anymore.
That's not mocking his death. It's just saying he doesn't matter. Which is true. He's a fucking podcaster. No one should care about him as much as these jerkoffs are regardless of his politics .
Can't wait for Hassan to get shot and watch the democrats fly his casket on air force 2 with an honor guard OH WAIT BUT they wouldn't because that's fucking insane?? Obviously?!
But now that this is the standard, I sure hope Boxxy gets a 21 gun salute and a month of federally mandated mourning when she goes
It still blows my mind that the Native American consultant on Voyager was a fake. Beltran should have seen through the guy but didn't afaik. Fuck Beltran.
Seems like he was combing the Republican moral desert for Charlie's empathy to use as a guide and at the end of the day, well unfortunately, he ain't found shit.
I'm going to release a fan edit of Voyager that uses AI to replace Robert Beltran with Mel Brooks from Blazing Saddles. At least that way I'll know the terrible native pastiche is being played by someone who understands racism.
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RaoulDook@lemmy.world · 91 pts · 334d
To be fair, it's probably hard for a black Vulcan to accept and forget the many blatantly racist things that the guy was known for saying about black people.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 334d
with the widespread reactionary normalization of kirk from the center/center-left i’d be surprised if shatner knows anything about him at all.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 88 pts · 334d
Even bigger Tim Russ fan now.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 334d
Based Tim Russ.
WTF is Shatner and Beltran even doing? Charlie Kirk and people like him call for the harm and death of people that Star Trek once stood to accept and validate. Fuck them both!
cm0002@piefed.world · 30 pts · 334d
Well Shatners is actually rather inline with federation ideals IMO, condemnation of assassination and political violence regardless of their views
Now Beltrans otoh, dripping with right-wing adoration. But he never really liked his ST legacy or ST in general I don't think so doubly fuck him!
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 334d
condemning violence is fine, but you don’t have to simultaneously normalize deplorable views.
Shatner has no problem saying we can’t discuss flat earth but for some reason draws the line at christian nationalism and white supremecism. there was a time that was a non starter as well, and the collective milquetoast center left is just enabling that overton window shift even more.
we are literally living through the tolerance paradox and it’s enfuriating.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 334d
Beltran has sucked for ages
SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 334d
I misread that as "Beltran has sucked eggs"
captainjhoira@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 333d
Yeah fuck that guy. I used to like Chakotay too. Oh well.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 333d
Yeah, his comment is about not making people who disagree with you "targets." Sure, I largely agree with that. However, when their entire raison d'être was making other people targets then that's the line where you don't get to be the victim anymore.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 334d
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 65 pts · 334d
That's not mocking his death. It's just saying he doesn't matter. Which is true. He's a fucking podcaster. No one should care about him as much as these jerkoffs are regardless of his politics .
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 15 pts · 334d
Can't wait for Hassan to get shot and watch the democrats fly his casket on air force 2 with an honor guard OH WAIT BUT they wouldn't because that's fucking insane?? Obviously?!
But now that this is the standard, I sure hope Boxxy gets a 21 gun salute and a month of federally mandated mourning when she goes
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 333d
Apparently saying 'who cares' is celebrating his death.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 333d
Look, a handful of gun deaths are the price we pay for 2A. Don't get all empathetic.
CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 334d
Tim was combing the desert of his mind looking for fucks to give and it appears he ain’t found shit
Dremor@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 333d
:::spoiler for the uninitiated Spaceballs
:::
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 334d
Logical
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 334d
The Robert Beltran comments would be hilarious if they weren't so, what's the word? Oh yeah. Whitewashing.
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 334d
It still blows my mind that the Native American consultant on Voyager was a fake. Beltran should have seen through the guy but didn't afaik. Fuck Beltran.
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one · 23 pts · 334d
He's Mexican, and the consultant was already known to be a fake at the time. So he probably didn't care at all.
Blame Rick Berman. The man is a misogynistic power-thugging shitbag already.
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 334d
I know Beltran is Mexican. I did not know the consultant was already known to be a fake at the time. What. The. Fuck.
MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 334d
I'm not up on my Voyager backstage knowledge at all, but by chance was that consultant John Two-Hawks?
Edit: nope, different fraud.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamake_Highwater
GorGor@startrek.website · 18 pts · 334d
Honestly, how is this mocking? At absolutely worst its dismissive or disrespectful, but that is a bit much.
tamal3@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 334d
The caption was "the only Kirk that matters" :)
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 334d
The truth hurts
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 1 pts · 334d
It's more of a pain in the neck, really.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 333d
I'm assuming the commenter above knew that. That's what they were saying. It's not mocking. It's just saying "I don't really give a fuck."
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 334d
Seems like he was combing the Republican moral desert for Charlie's empathy to use as a guide and at the end of the day, well unfortunately, he ain't found shit.
unconsequential@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 334d
I’d like to think Leonard Nimoy would be proud.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 333d
Better cancel Voyager now, I guess. Can't have this kind of hate speech go unpunished. /s
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 334d
Unfathomably based
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 334d
I'm going to release a fan edit of Voyager that uses AI to replace Robert Beltran with Mel Brooks from Blazing Saddles. At least that way I'll know the terrible native pastiche is being played by someone who understands racism.
I feel Tim Russ would appreciate that.
Alpha71@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 334d
Wait. Beltrans a Conservative!?
1SimpleTailor@startrek.website · 4 pts · 333d
Has been for years. Notorious Scab too.
noxypaws@pawb.social · 6 pts · 334d
I don't get it, how is this mocking?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 333d
Anything they don't like is mocking. Thin skinned weak ass pussies.