It’s not ideal but it’s something. When you put up a job posting you get swarmed with too many resumes to properly review, and resumes don’t really tell the full story about a person.
Yes and no. Who you know definitely opens a lot of doors. But your ability to progress career-wise will be limited if your ability to actually accomplish useful tasks is shit.
Also, all too often this saying is taken with a defeatist mindset, like all job offers flow purely from nepotism. The reality is that formal job application processes suck big fat donkey dick at sussing out good and bad hires - but hiring someone who is recommended by an existing good employee has a much better chance at a good outcome. It is completely reasonable and rational to hire primarily via social networks. As a potential employee, then, your best avenue for landing the job you want is clear: you have to talk to people!
I know that this won't go over well with the neckbeards of lemmy, who want to work from home as a plumber, never make eye contact with their coworkers, and only talk to people via their gaming headsets - but it is an obvious and straightforward fact. Want a job, or a job better than the one you have? Be friendly with your coworkers. Joke around and grab beers after work. Have hobbies outside the house and constantly strive to make new friends and social connections. Strike up conversations with random people in bars, parks, or hell, in line at the gas station! Take an in-office job so you can build real relationships with your coworkers and bosses, rather than just being a faceless name on a slack channel. It's true - it isn't what you know, it's who knows what you know! So go know more people!
This is why I wander down to IT every once in a while on a slow afternoon. I just figured that it must suck to have every conversation start with a problem, so I'll be the one person who occasionally shows up just to talk
The only people that show up to to chat are the janitors while cleaning and the maintenance guy that checks the fire supression system, I like it that way.
Thats how I got married. Asked some guy I knew on msn messenger to help me with my computer problem. He got really upset and ranted about people only reaching out to him cause they needed their computer fixed and never to ask how he was doing. So I asked him how he was doing. Married for nearly 20 years now.
ranted about people only reaching out to him cause they needed their computer fixed and never to ask how he was doing
Provocateur Red Flag:
is the red flag "man expresses loneliness and frustration"
Truculent Red Flag:
is that the red flag
Malicious Actor Red Flag: Username using template that is very easy to script for automated bulk account creation. For instance, something that combines a random word with a random number.
Back in my high school days, I worked at a small company that had like 3 or 4 tech guys, each one assigned to a specific building. The one assigned to ours, wasn't very knowledgeable on anything, was more of a tech enthusiast. So when anything would go wrong my manager would come get me first. Which then expanded to various co-workers asking if I'd come to their house to fix things. I helped fix so many slow running computers back in the day. Never charged anyone, I saw it as an opportunity to learn and practice. When I got to college, I FLEW through all the course material.
damn
i saw that meme and realized that i haven’t contacted lots of good people in a while because of how ofraid i am to resemble the girl
damn, right in the feelings dude, ouch
well, if you really wanna know, i was just having it rough for some time lately, and my friends had problems of their own, so untill recently i kinda spiraled into self-isolation to not burden anyone.
What can i tell, don't repeat my mistakes, there are always people that want to care about you, and your worst assumptions about yourself aren't always justified.
The way I do this is to just straight up ask first. Then regardless of the answer, ask how things have been. I usually do want to know how things have been, and asking after the favor helps show I'm not just asking as a pleasentry.
37 Comments
razorcandy@discuss.tchncs.de · 52 pts · 341d
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 341d
You’re missing getting asked to help a family member get into your industry/company.
I actually do try and help on that one though… nobody starts from nothing, we all deserve a hand up.
Whelks_chance@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
It's not what you know, it's who you know
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 341d
Yeah.
It’s not ideal but it’s something. When you put up a job posting you get swarmed with too many resumes to properly review, and resumes don’t really tell the full story about a person.
blarghly@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 341d
Yes and no. Who you know definitely opens a lot of doors. But your ability to progress career-wise will be limited if your ability to actually accomplish useful tasks is shit.
Also, all too often this saying is taken with a defeatist mindset, like all job offers flow purely from nepotism. The reality is that formal job application processes suck big fat donkey dick at sussing out good and bad hires - but hiring someone who is recommended by an existing good employee has a much better chance at a good outcome. It is completely reasonable and rational to hire primarily via social networks. As a potential employee, then, your best avenue for landing the job you want is clear: you have to talk to people!
I know that this won't go over well with the neckbeards of lemmy, who want to work from home as a plumber, never make eye contact with their coworkers, and only talk to people via their gaming headsets - but it is an obvious and straightforward fact. Want a job, or a job better than the one you have? Be friendly with your coworkers. Joke around and grab beers after work. Have hobbies outside the house and constantly strive to make new friends and social connections. Strike up conversations with random people in bars, parks, or hell, in line at the gas station! Take an in-office job so you can build real relationships with your coworkers and bosses, rather than just being a faceless name on a slack channel. It's true - it isn't what you know, it's who knows what you know! So go know more people!
ameancow@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 341d
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 21 pts · 341d
So did she watch or join in
ameancow@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 340d
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 341d
At least it isn't a pyramid scheme. Right?
Nuerion@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 341d
for the last time its not a pyramid its a triangle completely different
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d
Reverse triangle, like a funnel. Right?
theneverfox@pawb.social · 17 pts · 341d
This is why I wander down to IT every once in a while on a slow afternoon. I just figured that it must suck to have every conversation start with a problem, so I'll be the one person who occasionally shows up just to talk
Sabata11792@ani.social · 7 pts · 341d
The only people that show up to to chat are the janitors while cleaning and the maintenance guy that checks the fire supression system, I like it that way.
Nuerion@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d
oh they know
theneverfox@pawb.social · 8 pts · 341d
Know what? Me? Because that's the whole point, I show up without a problem once in a blue moon and just chat
And when I do have a problem I call and it's all business, but we know each other already so neither of us are walking on eggshells
paperdoll@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 341d
Thats how I got married. Asked some guy I knew on msn messenger to help me with my computer problem. He got really upset and ranted about people only reaching out to him cause they needed their computer fixed and never to ask how he was doing. So I asked him how he was doing. Married for nearly 20 years now.
chellomere@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 341d
And that's how you earn life-time free tech support.
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 341d
That is a rollercoaster of a post with nothing but red flags in the middle.
Varying9125@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 340d
is the red flag "man expresses loneliness and frustration"? is that the red flag?
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
Rando Red Flag:
MSN Messenger Red Flag:
Emotional Dysregulation Red Flag:
Histrionics Red Flag:
Provocateur Red Flag:
Truculent Red Flag:
Malicious Actor Red Flag: Username using template that is very easy to script for automated bulk account creation. For instance, something that combines a random word with a random number.
Varying9125@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 340d
you must wear out that red flag quickly lol.
Test_Tickles@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 340d
Don't be silly, you can just buy them in bulk.
Trex202@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 341d
I wish they asked about me before demanding help
noretus@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 341d
It doesn't really feel any better once you know that it's an empty pleasantry they don't really care to have an answer to.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 341d
Well they really do hope you're well enough to help them at least.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 341d
As a mechanic, this is my life.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 340d
When I was in college there were a couple times where women used the tech support thing as a pretext to hook up. I miss those days.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 340d
Back in my high school days, I worked at a small company that had like 3 or 4 tech guys, each one assigned to a specific building. The one assigned to ours, wasn't very knowledgeable on anything, was more of a tech enthusiast. So when anything would go wrong my manager would come get me first. Which then expanded to various co-workers asking if I'd come to their house to fix things. I helped fix so many slow running computers back in the day. Never charged anyone, I saw it as an opportunity to learn and practice. When I got to college, I FLEW through all the course material.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 340d
damn
i saw that meme and realized that i haven't contacted lots of good people in a while because of how ofraid i am to resemble the girl
damn, right in the feelings dude, ouch
arsCynic@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 340d
Why? Don't ask for help and you're golden.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 340d
well, if you really wanna know, i was just having it rough for some time lately, and my friends had problems of their own, so untill recently i kinda spiraled into self-isolation to not burden anyone.
What can i tell, don't repeat my mistakes, there are always people that want to care about you, and your worst assumptions about yourself aren't always justified.
noretus@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 340d
Joke is that I'm actually the techy woman.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 340d
as we all occasionally ig
doubt there's much tech illiterate people on lemmy
we're a bunch of ne-e-erds :D
noretus@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 340d
Correct.
CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 340d
Roger. Copy.
Ahardyfellow@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 341d
The way I do this is to just straight up ask first. Then regardless of the answer, ask how things have been. I usually do want to know how things have been, and asking after the favor helps show I'm not just asking as a pleasentry.
dogs0n@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d
Or do both
But if i was receiving i do like just to the point so ur right im wrong
noisypine@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 340d
I don't let anyone know that I am good with anything. I don't get any calls.
Klairabelle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 339d
If I didn’t see the bottom left image, I would’ve thought this was a once-a-long-time-ago-acquaintance fallen victim to MLM.
ekZepp@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d
Ok mom.