Clerks is one of the best low budget indy films I've ever seen. Dogma is a full theatrical film and 100% the complete package. Clerks has A+ dialogue tho, no argument.
Ok. No disagreement that Dogma had a higher budget. I just think Clerks, even with the lower budget and basically no name cast, is a much better movie. It's seriously rewatchable. Try rewatching it. Dogma might be a bit slicker in terms of production, but the jokes fall flat and the whole thing feels wandering, like Smith thought he had something to say about Catholicism, the church, modernity, but it ends up aimless and more pointing at the idea of profoundness without actually saying or doing anything profound. Clerks in the other hand has real points to make about consumerism, working life, absurdity of everyday experience, and what something like friendship really means. Smith understands the point he's trying to make and makes it well. He even front runs the kind of nihilism that's become dominant in (especially Internet) humor today.
Clerks is easily in my top 100 films of all time, maybe even top 40. And I don't think it would be improved with higher production budget. Dogma was definitely in my top 100 20 years ago, but these days, prob wouldn't even crack the top 500. Dogma is pretending to be a smart movie, but us actually kinda dumb. Clerks is a smart movie pretending to be dumb.
Turning it inward, no one can be fully aware of their own dogmas. It is easy to point them out in others, but impossible to see them in self without the mirror of time and self growth.
Well scientifically the variation in left wing beliefs are significantly less than those of right wing beliefs. So if conservativism is a a dogma then I guess wokism is even more so.
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AngryishHumanoid@lemmynsfw.com · 21 pts · 348d
That's a bit harsh, I think it's Kevin Smith's best work.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 348d
Excuse me?
Clerks?
AngryishHumanoid@lemmynsfw.com · 8 pts · 348d
Clerks is one of the best low budget indy films I've ever seen. Dogma is a full theatrical film and 100% the complete package. Clerks has A+ dialogue tho, no argument.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
Ok. No disagreement that Dogma had a higher budget. I just think Clerks, even with the lower budget and basically no name cast, is a much better movie. It's seriously rewatchable. Try rewatching it. Dogma might be a bit slicker in terms of production, but the jokes fall flat and the whole thing feels wandering, like Smith thought he had something to say about Catholicism, the church, modernity, but it ends up aimless and more pointing at the idea of profoundness without actually saying or doing anything profound. Clerks in the other hand has real points to make about consumerism, working life, absurdity of everyday experience, and what something like friendship really means. Smith understands the point he's trying to make and makes it well. He even front runs the kind of nihilism that's become dominant in (especially Internet) humor today.
Clerks is easily in my top 100 films of all time, maybe even top 40. And I don't think it would be improved with higher production budget. Dogma was definitely in my top 100 20 years ago, but these days, prob wouldn't even crack the top 500. Dogma is pretending to be a smart movie, but us actually kinda dumb. Clerks is a smart movie pretending to be dumb.
Chezus9247@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 348d
Dogma is a boss in Isaac.
j4k3@piefed.world · 5 pts · 348d
And a bike in Italy
showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website · 5 pts · 348d
And a really good movie.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 348d
And a bitch.
Substance_P@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
And a brand of natural and effective grooming care products for pets.
Dadifer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 347d
Every proof begins with axioms.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
molten@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 348d
DogMask
wabafee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
If I know what dogma means I will probably be insulted. /s
AshCircuit@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 348d
j4k3@piefed.world · 2 pts · 348d
Turning it inward, no one can be fully aware of their own dogmas. It is easy to point them out in others, but impossible to see them in self without the mirror of time and self growth.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com · 1 pts · 348d
Well scientifically the variation in left wing beliefs are significantly less than those of right wing beliefs. So if conservativism is a a dogma then I guess wokism is even more so.
Lukario@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 348d
Alright, I'll bite.
What's dogma?
j4k3@piefed.world · 1 pts · 348d
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