But, Is the "police" inside fully automated gay anarchism, the same as in capitalism 🤔 don't get me wrong, the ST universe is frustratingly and unrealistically hierarchical for a post-scarcity society, but I do have to wonder if the bastardness of the space-police would be on the same level when they're not protecting capital and the plutocracy.
I haven't delved into the lore as much, I was always under the impression that The Federation is post-scarcity, due to replicator technology. This is reinforced in the "Shades of Green" Lower Decks episode.
Earth is post-scarcity, but it’s not very clear how much this applies to the whole of the Federation. We’ve definitely seen Federation colonies deal with famine and even societal collapse (in Kirk and Yar’s backstory and elsewhere).
But regardless of all that, DS9 isn’t a Federation station, it’s just managed by Starfleet officers on behalf of the Bajorans.
Reminds me of the Culture books I've read (still got a good ways to go, I've been slacking). That's a pretty common theme in the series - how far can Contact go to do its job? Who will it throw under the bus to accomplish its goals?
I need to get back on that series, its really fun to compare and contrast it to Trek.
I was on season 6 before I realized where I recognized her from and it was a 'whooooaaaa holy shit that actress is good at making people fucking hate them' epiphany and I went from despising the character to enjoying watching her just embody evil bitch power... talented lady, impressive ability to literally draw ire.
this was during the broadcast run before everything in the universe was documented on wikipedia heh.
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db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 345d
Why you have to do Odo dirty like that
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 345d
ACAB includes Odo
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 345d
But, Is the "police" inside fully automated gay anarchism, the same as in capitalism 🤔 don't get me wrong, the ST universe is frustratingly and unrealistically hierarchical for a post-scarcity society, but I do have to wonder if the bastardness of the space-police would be on the same level when they're not protecting capital and the plutocracy.
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 345d
You might like this article about 24th century law enforcement and whether Odo is a bastard.
The summary though is... yes.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 345d
hah ,thanks
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 345d
I should have also mentioned the article is from StarTrek.com so... it has some authority lol
Seleni@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 345d
Nice article! Thanks for sharing.
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 345d
Startrek.com is a source of some great articles
rhelawyn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
Nice article thanks!
For those like me who are currently watching DS9 for the first time… heavy spoilers in the last half. Outch.
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 343d
Fuck. Well sorry about that...
rhelawyn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
I’ll be fine, I brought this on myself
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 345d
What's post-scarcity about it?
DS9 demonstrates clearly this isn't the case. Even TNG had mention of rations.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 345d
I haven't delved into the lore as much, I was always under the impression that The Federation is post-scarcity, due to replicator technology. This is reinforced in the "Shades of Green" Lower Decks episode.
usernamefactory@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 345d
Earth is post-scarcity, but it’s not very clear how much this applies to the whole of the Federation. We’ve definitely seen Federation colonies deal with famine and even societal collapse (in Kirk and Yar’s backstory and elsewhere).
But regardless of all that, DS9 isn’t a Federation station, it’s just managed by Starfleet officers on behalf of the Bajorans.
Damage@feddit.it · 5 pts · 345d
Yar wasn't from a Federation planet AFAIK
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 345d
I wasn't talking about odo specifically
Albbi@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 345d
Oh you probably misunderstood rations are rat-ions. They're the things that cations chase.
Hupf@feddit.org · 5 pts · 345d
🏅
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 345d
Reminds me of the Culture books I've read (still got a good ways to go, I've been slacking). That's a pretty common theme in the series - how far can Contact go to do its job? Who will it throw under the bus to accomplish its goals?
I need to get back on that series, its really fun to compare and contrast it to Trek.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 345d
Yeah, the Use of Weapons was pretty brutal in exploring this theme.
DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 345d
When Odo came out as anti union I stopped respecting him.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 345d
This desperatelly needs to be expanded with Garak and Rom
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 345d
I'll see if I can think of something
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 345d
Rom can be easy since this applies for most of the series.
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 345d
Fair point lmao
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
Keiko should be in the square beneath O'Brian with an angry face looking up.
MoonMelon@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 345d
Funny you chose Dolores Umbridge for Kai Winn when she's literally Nurse Ratched, but maybe that just dates me.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 345d
I was on season 6 before I realized where I recognized her from and it was a 'whooooaaaa holy shit that actress is good at making people fucking hate them' epiphany and I went from despising the character to enjoying watching her just embody evil bitch power... talented lady, impressive ability to literally draw ire.
this was during the broadcast run before everything in the universe was documented on wikipedia heh.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 345d
The guy who just won’t shut up
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 345d
*dismissive grunt*