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Assal Rad @AssalRad
Headline after headline fails to mention that seizing the ships and kidnapping humanitarians violates international law. Instead the articles repeat Israeli propaganda.
This is how Western media normalizes Israel's crimes.
embedded screenshot 1 (BBC News headline):
Israeli naval ships intercept Gaza-bound flotilla
embedded screenshot 2 (Reuters headline):
Live: Israel says it has stopped several vessels from Gaza aid flotilla
embedded screenshot 3 (AP headline):
Activists say Israeli navy has begun intercepting a Gaza-bound aid flotilla
embedded screenshot 4 (CNN headline):
Israeli military intercept and board several aid ships bound for Gaza, organizers say

43 Comments
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 330d
literal high seas piracy.
and otherwise, an attack to the states from which the ships come from.
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 330d
I know they said headline, but cmon actually read the article
There are actual issues with these articles but you can't call it propaganda when half of it is criticizing israel
link
ICastFist@programming.dev · 13 pts · 330d
The point is that a lot of people won't read the articles, they'll just skim the headline and call it a day. "Israeli navy intercepts flotilla bound for Gaza" and "Israeli navy kidnaps protesters in international waters" give very different ideas of the main subject.
moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 329d
fair enough
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
Notice how the article doesn’t actually call their behavior illegal or cite the international law they broke? They just report that other people are calling it illegal? That’s propaganda.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 330d
They do the same thing with trump and fall for it every time.
Like the latest shit about Democrats wanting to give medical care to undocumented immigrants.
Not even close to being true but there they are for the past week repeating it everyday like it's a fact.
Saying Donald trump said --Lie-- Only spreads the lie more.
Just don't report in the lie. Skip that part
apftwb@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 329d
"Somalian sailing cooperatives intercept cargo vessel to offer exchange of goods or services"
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 329d
Intercepts is a neutral term though. Not really repeating mucj propaganda but rather just reporting the fact that they did intercept it.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 329d
And they're reporting it because they want everybody to know that theyre conquering the shit out of Gaza and murdering all the Palestinians. But they're reporting it in a way that sounds neutral 😒
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 329d
Reuters is conquering Gaza..?
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 329d
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 329d
The reason mainstream media doesn't mention that it's against international law is because it's not against international law. So they just aren't lying to you, while alternative media is lying to you.
International law isn't written by the UN or whatever organization you might imagine would be passing world legislation. It's just treaties nations agree to. Nations don't want to make it illegal to do things nations want to do. This is why no one has made war illegal under international law. Countries want to still go to war, so it's not illegal under international law. Countries want to be able to do blockades, so blockades are not illegal under international law.
Sure you can say you don't like it, you could say a blockade is wrong, immoral, heinous, or whatever emotional terminology you'd like. But saying a blockade is illegal is either ignorant of international law, or just plain lying.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · -9 pts · 329d
I'd disagree that this is propaganda. News always should try to Ramona as neutral as possible, avoiding throwing oil on flames where possible.
Also, the title can't contain everything, do the articles themselves mention it?
mrdown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 329d
No, media should just tell the truth
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 324d
Truth is a very fluent concept, unfortunately
Yes, news should always tell the truth, of course, but it is so easy to (accidentally) inject bias. You could simply spend a minute more on one interview than another and be biased
Journalists should always strive to be as closed to unbiased as possible, and indeed always try to report the truth in a truthful manner
Tell that to fox news and co
This also implies that news organizations must be independent and should always be funded by independent government organizations, not some rich billionaire
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 329d
Blockades aren't against international law. Countries don't make the things they want to do illegal. It's alternative media that isn't telling you the truth.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 329d
Not when the UN require Israel to end occupation unconditionally and that Israel showed the intent and is doing a genocide.
I have a brain to use and there is international law resources I do not trust alternative media or mainstream media blindly. You can't seriously justify settler colonialism and the methods to maintain it which blockade is part of it
I wonder how many UN entities and human right report before you accept the obvious
UN Human Rights Experts Say Israel’s Blockade of Gaza Illegal (2011, OHCHR)
UN Experts Hail ICJ Declaration on Illegality of Israel's Presence in Occupied Palestinian Territory (2024)
UN Officials and Refugee Agency Declare Gaza Blockade Illegal and Call for Its Lifting (2014)
International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Declaration: Gaza Blockade Violates Geneva Conventions
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 327d
The UN is a forum for diplomacy to happen in nothing more. It is not the world's government and when it moves in that direction it's always a shit show. The US Electoral College is complete bullshit, but the UN is far far worse than that. One country one vote is never going to lead to an organization that represents the world because most of the world's government's are authoritarian.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/current-members
The UN Human Rights Commission has countries on them that are the worst human rights abusers in the world. This is good from a diplomatic perspective as it could encourage those countries to do better. But it's also bad because those human rights abusers will put out reports to claim their enemies are doing bad things to give themselves cover. Qatar has slavery, and was a supporter of Hamas (and maybe still is unofficial), and they're a member of the UN Human Rights commission. The UN commissions have a nasty habit of not recusing themselves when there's a conflict of interest, so Qatar would have some influence here.
Ethiopia is also of the member. The conflict in Ethiopia is ten times worse than anything you see happening in Gaza. But it's like the line from Lord of War... "there was a white war happening so nobody gave a shit about what was happening in Africa." Ethiopia has an interest in keeping everyone's eyes on Gaza.
Same goes for the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
The UN is just kinda a fucked up group dominated by authoritarian human rights abusers, they should be treated with some skepticism on anything they say about the subject.
Your link the to Red Cross has this right at the top:
So they admit they don't know what they're talking about and and having "discussion". Basically just shit talking in the general direction of Israel.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 327d
You are discrediting reputable human right organizations that show human right abuses of all countries and all international laws. Everybody is wrong and lying except Israel and it supporter. Everybody is laughing at you for the embarrassing and stupid arguments.
If you really believe the UN is not credible maybe you should ask the genocidal state you support to leave it
Not a single country you claim do more abuses than Israel has as much genocide statements and defend settler colonialism . The only person who was more as explicit was Hitler
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 327d
Like I say the UN is useful as a forum for diplomacy. If countries are making bullshit resolutions they're less likely to go to war. That doesn't make the resolutions less bullshit.
About half the reason for the UN is to get countries to put their energy into bullshit rather than war. The other half is the security council, which is also a little bullshit, but it's at least somewhat connected to how things really work in the world.
You should read up on what's been going on in Ethiopia (member of the UN human rights commission). Or maybe you don't think atrocities committed against black people matter? There were more deaths and more famine from that war than the Israel-Hamas war. And it looks like it could be heating up again. Are you going to protest a war in Africa? Nope, because the people there don't have the social media presence that Iran has cultivated.
Somalia is at least 8 times worse than what's happening in Gaza. Do you care?
Same goes for Syria. But Assad is gone now (because for some reason Hezbollah wasn't able to back him up, wonder why?) so hopefully things can stabilize there.
So you don't care if half a million Africans die. You don't even care if half a million Arabs die in Syria. You only care about Arabs in one particular region of the world. Why is that?
mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 327d
Keep embarassing yourself with your genocide and settler colonialism apologism. Everybody expect you are lying according to you. Nobody has more extreme genocidal statements as israel leaders, the closest to it is nazi statements
I don't you other conflicts as a deflection like you do, you do not care about a single conflict
5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org · -35 pts · 330d
You mean „kidnapping“ like the last time? When they were sent back home by plane? being intercepted is exactly what they want. This flotilla wants the world to look at them being stopped by Israel. They never expected to actually reach Gaza. They never intended to actually help suffering people in Gaza with food etc. This is an unnecessary publicity stunt.
xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 330d
Being intercepted in international waters, and by illegal blockades, kidnapping someone is not dependant on how long you keep that person locked up.
Nobody is thinking they will solve the hunger (because we know how bad the situation is), they are, pressuring a fragile Nazi-esque government and it's supporters to show their real motivations.
Protests are breaking out all over as a reaction to our governments helping Israel illegally stopping a humanitarian fleet by sending gestapo freaks, they're also making sure media and the public can't just stop talking about it, i'd say their mission has been increasingly succesful every run of the last year.
Honestly, you should probably stop being such a cynical asshole, it's really fucking disgusting.
bishoponarope@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 330d
You're responding to a German. They have an incredibly warped perception of everything Israel.
xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 330d
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 330d
It's kidnapping when they don't have jurisdiction to seize ANYONE in that location, on those vessels. If I grab a random person off the street, force them into my car at gunpoint, make them watch two Toy Story movies of their choice, and then paid a taxi to bring them back to another city they're not from, it'd be (the silliest) kidnapping.
What are you doing to bring attention to the genocide? What messages have reached people around the globe written or orchestrated by your hand?
Stop being a crab, pulling others down into the bucket. All efforts towards peace and humanity are good efforts.
5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org · -7 pts · 330d
Again: I think this flotilla helps the people that are part of it, with there helplessness concerning the dire situation in Gaza. It also helps everyone who wants to say: “Look! Israel is even more evil than we thought!“. Which helps antisemites who sometimes „by accident“ say „the Jews“ instead of „the IDF“ or „Netanjahus fascist government“.
There are signs appearing on German shops again: „Jews(!) are not welcome here.“ There was a synagogue attacked in GB yesterday. Attacking Jews because of a fascist government in Israel is like beating up every guy called Vladimir because of Putins war on Ukraine. People are beaten because they wear a Star of David. That’s like beating people wearing green, because Hamas uses green headbands.
What actually helps, is writing letters after letters (not emails) to your local representative, telling them in clear but polite words what you think. The rightwingers in Germany do it all the time and the public broadcasting bends over backwards to appear „balanced“.
What may help is support the organisations that have at least to some degree access to Gaza and the West Bank.
What’s not helping, is putting a handful of truckloads of aid on boats with some lesser known stars and sending them on a journey that had no chance of ever reaching their proclaimed goal.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 329d
Why are you shifting the blame from israel? Many of the antisemitism act are direct result of israel genocide. You should blame israel who try to associate antizionism to antisemitism
I saw a video of gazan fishing ton of fish because israel intention was shifted to the flotillas
5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org · 2 pts · 329d
People who take part in these crimes are responsible for committing them. People who defend those crimes are guilty of defending them. No person is responsible for the crimes of the IDF and Israeli government just because this person is born in Israel or of Jewish descent.
I don’t go beating up Germans with Russian grandparents, because Putin is trying to eradicate Ukraine. It’s not their fault.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 329d
You don't get it. I do not justify it. I acknowledge that is it wrong and i also acknowledge the issue so we csn fine a solution to reduce hate crimes for everybody. Something that they don't tell you is that both antisemitism and antimuslims increased because of the genocide in Gaza
ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 330d
So, everyone is just supposed to sit down and twiddle their thumbs while Israel finishes off the rest of the Palestinian population and steals their land, saying "Oh, bummer, but it was inevitable"?
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · -11 pts · 330d
Well Israel isn’t stopping random boats or arresting random people. They had announced their intentions clearly and have not reacted on orders to stop. Look up international maritime law on blockades.
Israel can’t let people enter dangerous warzones. The actual aid organizations on the ground in Gaza coordinate with the IDF all the time to minimize danger. The flotilla maximizes danger to themselves on purpose.
If someone threatens to commit a crime and doesn’t stop when asked, they can be arrested before the crime happens.
kurwa@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 330d
Minimize danger by shooting unarmed starving people? What a fuckin joke.
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 330d
It's not a crime to be in those water, it's not their port to be policing, it's not illegal for them to be in that area.. Their blockade is not legal and is not recognized or needed. What, Hamas has some kind of fleet of amphibious vehicles we need to be worried about swarming the coasts? No, Israel has firm control over that port through occupation?
The 'actual aid organizations' CAN'T GET THROUGH AND SAY ISRAEL IS PREVENTING THEM FROM SAVING LIVES AND ARE BEING FIRED UPON BY THE IDF..so, I don't know man, it sounds like an illegal blockade for an illegal genocide to kill humans they deemed to be illegal by birth.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · -7 pts · 330d
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 329d
I’ve never seen so much genocide apologia coming from someone claiming to be against genocide.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 329d
Nuance and complexity is too much for you apparently.
Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 329d
There's nothing to "nuance" here. Israel wants all the Gazan's driven out, killed, or in what are effectively concentration camps. All the rest is Israeli Hasbara. This isn't a failure of aid management. The shameful incompetence of the GHF is by design. Also FYI:
And maybe you should read this to get some more clarity on the situation:
Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 329d
So what proportion was "looted" by starving Palestinian civilians and what proportion was "looted" by Hamas? The article conveniently doesn't say, probably because Israel conveniently claims everyone they shoot at is Hamas.
Let me refer you to these (inconvenient for your narrative) follow up articles that debunk your claim:
The reason Palestinians are starving and being killed in Gaza and the West Bank is because that is what Israel's intention has been all along.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 329d
UN say aid is unsuficient and isrsel is comitting a genocide . They didn't even arrest isrseli blocking aid and destroy it
xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 330d
Ahyes, famously they have been very cooperative with aid organisations, so much so they set up they're own (Gaza Holocaust Fiundation), which was totally not another front to slaughter even more people.
Also, the danger is the israeli army, what fucking coordination? Please don't murder our aid workers like you do every time?
What are all these freakish zionists on fedi? Go dig a hole and crawl in it.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 329d
They kidnap gazan fishmen all the time
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 330d
Bringing aid to dying children is an unnecessary publicity stunt? Where is your humanity and who took it away from you?
Sunshine@piefed.social · 5 pts · 330d
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 329d
I’m curious, when people have bad takes like this and get flooded with downvotes, do they ever actually reassess their beliefs, or do they just dig in even more?
Revan343@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 329d