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c/progressivepolitics · by DarkBluemetal@lemmy.world · 324d

GOP push to restrict voting by overseas U.S. citizens continues before 2026 midterms

https://www.npr.org/2025/10/01/nx-s1-5542344/overseas-active-duty-military-voting-uocava

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themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 324d (1 reply)

This is a crime. The GOP are advocating disenfranchisement, which is a criminal act. They are pushing to commit additional crimes against Americans.

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 324d

Everything they do is a crime.

Corridor8031@lemmy.ml · 33 pts · 324d (12 replies)
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Leeks@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 324d (1 reply)

Yes.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 322d

Kind of

entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org · 20 pts · 324d (1 reply)

Yes, but if you pay taxes in the country you're staying in, there's a chance you can deduct that tax from your taxable income on your US taxes, depending on the treaties in play.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 324d

The "Foreign Tax Credit" is a flat credit that goes against any US liability.

There are a few caveats, by country, if I'm not mistaken. For instance, I don't believe you can claim it on sanctioned countries. So anyone pulling a salary in Russia is stuck. But then folks in Russia likely aren't having their incomes reported to the US IRS anyway, so its something of a moot point.

DarkBluemetal@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 324d (3 replies)

yes.

Jrockwar@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 324d (2 replies)

Can you renounce US citizenship if you become a citizen of a different country?

7355608@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 324d (1 reply)

Yes but you have to pay the US government for it.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 322d

Not if you join ISIS!

yonderbarn@lazysoci.al · 2 pts · 323d (3 replies)

Not necessarily. A number of countries are exempt from double taxation.

The United States has tax treaties with a number of foreign countries...Under these same treaties, residents or citizens of the United States are taxed at a reduced rate, or are exempt from foreign taxes, on certain items of income they receive from sources within foreign countries.

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/united-states-income-tax-treaties-a-to-z

You are still required to file, however, and usually you are able to use the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion to avoid taxation of most of your income as long as it doesn't exceed a certain amount.

If you are a U.S. citizen or a resident alien of the United States and you live abroad, you are taxed on your worldwide income. However, you may qualify to exclude your foreign earnings from income up to an amount that is adjusted annually for inflation ($107,600 for 2020, $108,700 for 2021, $112,000 for 2022, and $120,000 for 2023).

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 323d (2 replies)

that's just a longer yes.

yonderbarn@lazysoci.al · 1 pts · 321d (1 reply)

You don't pay any taxes if it's in one of the treaty countries and your income doesn't exceed ~$100k

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 321d

but you're still taxed. it's a distinction with a difference

source: I prepared international tax returns for 20 years.

JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 25 pts · 323d (3 replies)

In its Arizona lawsuit, the RNC claims that allowing overseas non-resident voters to cast ballots "inflicts a competitive injury" on both the state and national GOP by adding to the state's voter rolls "individuals who are disproportionately non-Republican in their partisan affiliations."

Well that's pretty self explanatory

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 323d

Literally politicians picking their voters.

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 323d

They told us to leave if we dont like it here and are angry that we are doing it and still have influence in elections, plus you cant gerrymander another country

acchariya@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d

I'm not worried. Democrats will compromise and count 3/5th of votes from overseas.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 23 pts · 324d

The whole thing is so transparent. Ever since he realized that mail-in ballots are more likely to vote democrat, way back when, and made a big stink about it because he thought he won already and somebody took it away from him!!!

And somehow all his toddler temper tantrums have become national policy now, or some sort of political discourse defended by his followers, and we have to take it seriously.

tiredofsametab@fedia.io · 14 pts · 324d

The Proving Residency for Overseas Voter Eligibility, or PROVE, Act would require overseas voters to have a "current residence" in the state they're registered, or a spouse, parent or guardian with such a residence.

Fuck all the way off. You make me file taxes every year. You have rules that make investing for my retirement much more difficult because of PFICs. Your asinine IRS rules stop foreign banks and brokerages for even wanting to touch US citizens. You want me to not vote? Do what the rest of the world (minus I think 1 country) does and drop all that shit.

arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 323d

No taxation without representation.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 324d

"If voting worked, they'd make it illegal"

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 323d

certainly the military will love this

Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 322d (2 replies)

Hot take. You shouldn't be able to vote for changes somewhere you don't live.

acchariya@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 321d (1 reply)

That might be just fine if they weren't subject to taxation, state department policies, IRS reporting requirements. It takes ten years to fully escape the US government and the clock only starts when you get some other citizenship.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 321d

Fair.