The EU forced Apple to allow users to replace their own batteries, Apple did so by making the process as troublesome for users as possible.
https://www.ifixit.com/News/60589/how-apples-self-repair-program-is-engineered-to-fail-repair-roundup-week-of-may-23
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Little8Lost@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 3y
and they got/get forced to use USB-C in europe and managed ho make a new version of the standart that isincompatible with the rest. Fuck apple
psyonity@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 3y
they're not yet forced (law didn't get into effect yet, end of 2024) and the EU has also set strict guidelines in the law that prevent apple from making their own standard much better than normal usb PD (the requirement is that if the device could charge with at least 18W, it must be possible to use a 'standard' USB PD charger at 18W). While it is a start, it's probably still gonna be a pain.
Jamie@jamie.moe · 5 pts · 3y
I saw a lot of speculation they'd do that exact sort of thing, so no surprise on this end there.
azuth@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 3y
The EU regulation is not in force yet. I doubt Apple's current solution is in accordance to the new regulations despite the title making it seem as if Apple successfully sidestepped it.
Another user in the thread incorrectly thinks Apple's current port has also circumvented the USB-C port requirement with it's current port.
While regulations can be circumvented (sometimes by design) there is no benefit in a defeatist attitude where Apple (and other corps) are inevitably going to defeat customer protections.
JasSmith@kbin.social · 23 pts · 3y
The EU generally operates under the principle of the "spirit of the law," while in the US, courts typically operate under the principles of the "letter of the law." The EU will not take kindly to attempts to skirt the spirit of the law, and their penalties have teeth.
WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 3y
So lucky that we have the European Union taking stand against corporations where the US failed miserably to keep them in check since Reagan.
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Gabu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3y
Hey, Brazil has been trying to do the same for a while. We just need a while to kick out leeching CIA puppets from positions of power.
what_is_a_name@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 3y
exactly - the port law enters into effect next fall for all new models introduced after. Apple has iPhone 15 and 16 to comply. EU likes for their big industry actions to come on reaaaaaly slow ... partly as a defense against the industry arguing they did not have time to prepare
darcy@discuss.tchncs.de · 19 pts · 3y
Apple's philosophy has always been to make things as easy as possible for users, but only if the users agree to pay through the nose. That's fine, but they also actively stop anyone from trying to do anything outside the limited number of actions they consider acceptable. It's a good thing the EU is trying to stop that.
tal@kbin.social · 13 pts · 3y
https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Diagnostic_Port.txt&sortOrder=Sort+by+Date&topic=Hardware+Design
Untitled9999@kbin.social · 8 pts · 3y
I remember when Apple was better. MacBooks were designed so that users could easily replace the battery, storage, and memory. But now, these parts are not designed to be replaced by users. The storage and memory is soldered, and the batteries are glued in.
Yes I think it's very good that the EU is pushing smartphone makers to have replaceable batteries. I hope these companies don't find a way around that.
There is of course Fairphone which has a replaceable battery, but Fairphones are a bit expensive. But I think there is a demand for this sort of thing. Look at how Framework laptops have got a lot of attention.
Thadrax@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3y
I really wished they would give manufacturers options. Either offer a reasonably priced replacement service or make it user replaceable. I personally don't want the downsides of an easily replaceable battery and I never had a phone die on me due to battery issues - and if it happened I would gladly have someone else replace it.
Elelith@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3y
I mean.. you can still do that. I'm pretty sure there's gonna be services to do that for you even if it would be easy to do it yourself. There's plenty of people who have no interest to do anything like that to their devices.
Thadrax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
Sure, but there won't be the option to buy a phone that doesn't have to compromise for a (easily) replaceable battery. Manufacturers don't just do that for more profit, it makes engineering the device easier and requires less compromises.
Stuff like that needs space, so the phone is going to get bigger or the battery smaller.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.fmhy.ml · 18 pts · 3y
Apple is really testing how long it takes until they get sued over it
In the past I would be pessimistic but nowadays the EU has been far more active with this stuff
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 3y
Coonthulhu@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3y
I dunno man.
These are the guys who put a net around their building in China to stop people from jumping out of the window.
It's low, but definitely not a new low.
Shift_@kbin.social · 4 pts · 3y
It's really just par for the course with Apple. They've been making their products hostile to repair for years. One of the more egregious examples being the iPhone 4. The cable that connected the display to the mainboard was strung between the two so that when the phone was opened, any inexperienced user or repair-person would likely tear it in half. To say nothing of error 53, an error that came up when attempting to replace the home button with a non-official part, despite not selling official parts.
GunnarRunnar@kbin.social · 3 pts · 3y
Tbh its to be expected.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y
I don’t know about a “new” low. This article is over a year old.
DevCat@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3y
Sounds like an opportunity for the DIYers out there to come up with solutions, look like heroes and make Apple look bad.
Cyberspark@kbin.social · 1 pts · 3y
There's unfortunately no good solution to "you have to access the board through the front and we glued the screen on"
Shift_@kbin.social · 1 pts · 3y
I don't know about that. When I worked at a repair shop we had tons of tools specifically for melting glue without harming the hardware. I've melted the adhesive that holds together ipad minis with a specialty heat plate. Apple for sure needs to get their shit together and make user serviceable devices, but there's always a way around their bullshit.
rikudou@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 3y
What a surprise, Apple is behaving like a piece of shit again.
faltuuser@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3y
Also the economics doesn't make sense.
ArugulaZ@kbin.social · 2 pts · 3y
You put your phone in a torture device?
ihavenopeopleskills@kbin.social · 1 pts · 3y
Reminds me of firearms ownership in certain jurisdictions. They don't want people to do it so they make it as laborious, tedious and time-consuming as the courts will allow.
Barely@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3y