I think the real reason for the Putin-Trump meeting in Orban's territory, is so that they can side with each-other, against the world, together.
Not to setup the entire deal, but to put-in-place the foundation for that Putin-Trump alliance, to destroy NATO.
There will have to be more developments, before they can make that strong-enough to openly display, but the foundation is what I believe they're going to be putting in-place, this time.
I wonder what consequences could arise from this. Would be funny if Orban found himself with an international arrest warrant on his arse as accessory to war crimes.
That's the problem of pretty much any international organisation, their power only reaches as far as their member states can (and are willing to) carry it.
I'd wager they are even more useless. Speaking of the UN, people tend to forget that the UN fundumentalny changed the way the world works, arguably more through their score of daughter organizations like WHO, UNICEF, ICAO or IMF than through the General Assembly. And as long as no veto power was involved, the UNSC did aid in the resolution of several conflicts. It's only the UNSC that gets useless as soon as a veto power goes rogue. That was the price to pay to have got it working in the first place - and we are paying it today, especially Ukraine.
The ICC on the other hand is more of a declaration of intent. A valuable declaration, but not much more.
It’ll be interesting to see if Putin considers it worth pulling out of Ukraine to let Trump crow about winning in a bid to keep a friendly party running the US.
Can Hungary guarantee Putin's security? Meeting on a military base far away was clever. I can't imagine that there is not somebody who is tempted to deliver the world from that evil.
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talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 309d
This looks a lot like Anchorage II: a celebration of Putin managing to play Trump for a fool, and the beginning of more months of the same.
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 309d
Is it even necessary to play an actual fool for a fool, though?
Paragone@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 309d
I think you are mistaken:
I think the real reason for the Putin-Trump meeting in Orban's territory, is so that they can side with each-other, against the world, together.
Not to setup the entire deal, but to put-in-place the foundation for that Putin-Trump alliance, to destroy NATO.
There will have to be more developments, before they can make that strong-enough to openly display, but the foundation is what I believe they're going to be putting in-place, this time.
Remember the Kremlin Papers..
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trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 309d
Wouldn't Hungary as signatories to the ICCs Rome Statute be legally required to arrest that wanted war criminal the moment he steps on their soil?
talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 309d
Surely we can trust Hungary to do the right thing. I'll even go so far as to say they are gonna do the far right thing.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 309d
They should, but you know how much they paid Orban to worship anything putin does.
So they won't.
Maybe someone should take matters into their own hands...
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 309d
I wonder what consequences could arise from this. Would be funny if Orban found himself with an international arrest warrant on his arse as accessory to war crimes.
dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 308d
Hungary is exiting ICC supposedely, since Orbán hosted Netanyahu.
Lembot_0004@discuss.online · 1 pts · 309d
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 309d
That's the problem of pretty much any international organisation, their power only reaches as far as their member states can (and are willing to) carry it.
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org · 1 pts · 308d
I'd wager they are even more useless. Speaking of the UN, people tend to forget that the UN fundumentalny changed the way the world works, arguably more through their score of daughter organizations like WHO, UNICEF, ICAO or IMF than through the General Assembly. And as long as no veto power was involved, the UNSC did aid in the resolution of several conflicts. It's only the UNSC that gets useless as soon as a veto power goes rogue. That was the price to pay to have got it working in the first place - and we are paying it today, especially Ukraine.
The ICC on the other hand is more of a declaration of intent. A valuable declaration, but not much more.
CaptObvious@literature.cafe · 4 pts · 309d
It’ll be interesting to see if Putin considers it worth pulling out of Ukraine to let Trump crow about winning in a bid to keep a friendly party running the US.
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 309d
Why should Putin be friendly to his meat puppet? He’s already got him by the balls.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 2 pts · 309d
LMAO
plyth@feddit.org · 3 pts · 309d
Can Hungary guarantee Putin's security? Meeting on a military base far away was clever. I can't imagine that there is not somebody who is tempted to deliver the world from that evil.
Donaldist@feddit.org · 1 pts · 309d
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 309d
Not necessarily. The only one who is risking nuclear war is the one who pushes the button. Not even the one giving the order.
Russia has been provoking NATO on all sorts of sides. Killing politicians, invading airspace, invading sovereign nations, threatening with nukes.
Killing putin can be seen as self defense.
plyth@feddit.org · 1 pts · 308d
You mean politicians and dictators cannot be war criminals because they never pull the trigger?
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 309d
I agree, but I also believe that enough are willing to take that risk.
Donaldist@feddit.org · 1 pts · 309d
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 2 pts · 309d
Prime oppurtunity to get the etsy witches involved again
hellothere@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 309d
Prague next?
plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 309d
Why Prague?
I expect this to be the Sarajevo of WW3.
hellothere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 308d
Lots of windows.