Oh how I wished this was satire, but its real LMAO. Really? You're gonna throw someone in jail just because they called you "fat"?
That's real fa(t)cism.
Fuhrious Fattie German politician sends Gestapo to arrest person who called her fattie
Oh how I wished this was satire, but its real LMAO. Really? You're gonna throw someone in jail just because they called you "fat"?
That's real fa(t)cism.
44 Comments
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 23 pts · 310d
Now this is truly a shit post. It looks shit and reeks of shit made by a shitty American I assume.
You know your constitutional given right of free speech, yes? Yeah but that doesn't entail being free of consequences. Or as the cool kids say: fuck around and find out.
Defamation of public figures has to have consequences especially when they are so god damn shallow as calling Ricarda Lang in 2024 a fattie.
You also don't go to jail over this. But the Platform Provider Gab not cooperating with law enforcement is the real scandal here.
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 310d
USians somehow tend to think their constitution applies worldwide 😂
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 310d
Yeah freedom of speech SHOULD apply worldwide. Is that really an insane thing to say?
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 310d
Freedom of speech is not and should not be unconditional. It does not cover spreading hate or lies.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 310d
Spreading of lies is called defamation. And that's illegal everywhere.
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 310d
Yeah? Say it to Trump.
Bo7a@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 310d
Yes. Any other stupid questions?
remotelove@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 310d
I don't give a shit about this post or any argument happening, but I am curious about why you think defamation of public figures specifically, has to have consequences?
I am not a fan of defamation against anyone, but I give the least amount of fucks for any politician. (Maybe one or maybe half of a fuck is given in their case.)
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 310d
I think that people don't have to take shit from bullies and we have laws to help victims in this regard.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 308d
She's the bully. The user who made that comment is the victim. Its one thing to call someone fat, its a totally different thing to throw them in a prison cell.
If she wants justice, just reply to that comment and call the commenter a fatass too. There problem solved!
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -23 pts · 310d
Lmao GAB is an American platform. They have no obligation to cooperate with Neo-Nazis from Germany ordering them to turn over personal information to imprison an innocent internet user. In fact GAB did the right thing by protecting that person.
Calling a politician fat is not "defamation". Are you high, friend?
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 12 pts · 310d
Ah yes of course, we all are just neo-nazis here in Germany.
Sod off arsehole and go back to actual fascist USA.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 310d
The nazis engaged in propaganda and punished people who spoke ill against their politicians. This is Nazi behavior. And since we're in modern times, they are "Neo Nazis". Neo means "new".
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 309d
Yeah no, Nazism has a meaning and this ain't it. Especially when you believe that free speech comes with free of consequences. Not even the US constitution says so.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 309d
Wtf does that mean? "free speech" literally means the ability to air ideas without the threat of violence or persecution. So yes, free speech should come without any legal consequence.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 6 pts · 309d
Wrong. Free speech means that nobody denies you your right to speak and or censoring you. Also that only applies to Congress, that they don't deny you those. And those amendments only apply in your country as other nations have different laws.
Here is the actual text, see if there is any word of freedom of consequences:
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 308d
Threatening to throw someone in jail if they insult a politician IS a restriction of free speech. How else do you restrict free speech? They can't install blocking devices inside a person's vocal chords that prevents the speech from even occuring.
This is like saying speeding is not restricted because people can still push the pedal beyond the speed limit. Of course they can! But there are state enforced consequences for it, which means that speeding is illegal (restricted).
denaggels@feddit.org · 11 pts · 310d
Who are the Neo-Nazis in Germany again? You don't seem to be an expert or even an informed individual on this issue. Not even in the slightest.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 310d
People threatening to imprison members of the public just because they insulted one of their politicians. That definitely sounds like Nazi behavior to me.
denaggels@feddit.org · 4 pts · 309d
Since you still haven't presented a credible source, I highly doubt that it's just because someone called her fat. Usually that comes along with threats and that is punishable.
Denjin@feddit.uk · 20 pts · 310d
Gab is a cesspool, can't find what was actually said but the request states "sexualized and denigrated" so we can assume it went beyond calling her fat.
This was also more than a year ago so nice try, turns out the actual fascists are still the fascists.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -18 pts · 310d
They just added "sexualized and denigrated" to make it sound more important. In the original comment, it was just calling her fat. Plus even if the comment sexualized and denigrated, is that a reason to take someone's basic freedom away and throw them in a prison cell?
Denjin@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 310d
Do you have a copy of the original post? If so, share it, otherwise you're just saying words with no evidence.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 310d
https://www.foxnews.com/media/germany-started-criminal-investigation-social-media-user-calling-female-politician-fat
Denjin@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 310d
Once again, that doesn't contain the words actually used in the original post. It's just regurgitating the same thing.
Post the original comment or your point is not valid.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 310d
The news article paraphrases the original comment (which is probably now deleted)
Denjin@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 310d
Fox News paraphrasing doesn't mean anything.
Denjin@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 310d
Also I've just read that page and it doesn't paraphrase anything.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 309d
First, the BKA is no GeStaPo like the American ICE. It's more like the FBI, but more professional.
On the other hand, this is a normal request for identification of a potential defendent in a criminal case. They have reason to assume the person is German, and public diffamation (not only of politicians, this applies to anyone) is a crime.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 308d
If they want to arrest someone for calling a politician fat, They are WORSE THAN ICE! That's not professional at all. A professional does not get deterred by random internet comments calling them fat.
And I don't care what the laws are in Germany. They can make how many ever useless ass laws they want, doesn't change what is morally right/wrong.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 308d
If it had been only that, this would not have happened. The BKA is a very professional police force. So there must have been way more. And this has nothing to do with her being a politician (except maybe for the reasons of the perpetrator).
But it is the law here. This is not America. And that is good, looking at what is happening there. Which could not happen here.
What you might think to be morally right or wrong. The world is not America. Thank goodness for that.
The first sentence of the German "Grundgesetz" (Constitution) is "Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar": Human dignity is inviolable. Think about it.
orygin@piefed.social · 3 pts · 308d
Go back to your third world country and stfu about countries you know nothing about, even less about its laws and constitution.
Either stay within the confines of your knowledge, or shut up and listen to what others are trying to make you understand.
Don't wonder why Americans are seen so negativity abroad, you are part of the problem.
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 308d
The founding fathers studied the laws and constitution of other countries all too well and knew exactly what NOT to do and warned against fuhrious fatties. Everybody says America sucks but are still fighting to get here (legally or illegally). Cause it sucks so much!
munsking@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 305d
people aten't even going on holidays in your shithole anymore bud.
nobody wants to live in your turd reich
orygin@piefed.social · 3 pts · 307d
I'm not fighting to get to the USA. It's a radioactive hell hole, just look at tourism stats and see it nosedived since the orange turd was voted in.
Btw, I would be really surprised if your founding fathers read Germany's constitution before making their own...
remon@ani.social · 6 pts · 310d
Ah yes, that's certainly some text. Do you have the rest of the pixels so one can actually read it?
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 310d
https://www.foxnews.com/media/germany-started-criminal-investigation-social-media-user-calling-female-politician-fat
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 310d
... And any RELIABLE source?
SecretiveSailor@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 310d
Fox News is a reliable source. They're not some fringe alternative news outlet.
Thoven@lemdro.id · 5 pts · 309d
Fox "news" themselves claim to be an entertainment program, not a legitimate source of news
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 310d
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BleatingZombie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 309d
They argued in court that they're not news. You should take their word for it
istdaslol@feddit.org · 1 pts · 310d
This is just the world we live in. Trump has hundreds arrested on the daily for the crime of „not voting for him“ or „saying he is old“