90% for an issue like this is really fucking impressive, to the point I doubt the result. If you ask people about anything, there will be 5-10% of people who mishear/misread the question/accidentally click on the wrong button/don't care about the poll/etc. If you asked people whether they are currently alive, you will get similar numbers. See also: https://xkcd.com/2305/ .
The poll was done by redbridge, one of the major political pollsters here. Though pollsters do occasionally get it wrong on political issues, I honestly don't think they would publish such an overwhelming result if they didn't believe it was robust.
Though the op's article was from October, the poll was done and published early this year, just before our federal elections. The same election where the conservatives tried to go with MAGA-style culture wars. So if I had to guess, there may be an element of fatigue with the strategy of cosying up with the far right fringes shown in the result of the poll.
And yet they still didn't get the message. After their disastrous loss, there were still many in the party that said it was because they didn't go far enough right..
Unlike leftists, Nazis are really good at working with people they disagree with. They purge in stages, starting with the most isolated targets, like trans people. They only go after other Nazis when they already control the government.
We're the 6th largest country on the planet, we stretch from tropical rain forests in the north, to deserts in the west, to snowy mountains in the south with everything in between What climate are you looking for?
Is the south as cold as like the northern US? I currently live in the mid-atlantic US but if I could actually afford to move I think I would want somewhere a little colder than where I am now
Yeah, you're not going to get that in Australia. The latitude goes down to about 42° South in Tasmania. Boston is about 42° North. I know there's much more to the climate than just latitude, but gives you some idea.
Interesting that you'd like it colder. I've moved from Australia to Atlantic Canada and much as I'm loving it here - there's a lot to said for a more temperate climate.
I would be curious where they did the polling and how many people they spoke too.
I can take you to communities in Australia where trans rights wouldn't even be understood then when explaining them they would want to kill the person.
Polling like this is done over the phone, they take numbers at random, and when you start getting into the 1000s in terms of a response, the samples become pretty accurate in terms of representation
also the snappy headline saya 91% sure, but looking at the article
86% agree or strongly agree that government and opposition should not politicise trans issues for political gain 
89% agree or strongly agree that LGBT people deserve to live with dignity and respect 
91% agree or strongly agree that trans people should have the freedom and choice to live their lives in the way that makes them happy 
81% agree of strongly agree that trans people deserve the same rights and protections as other Australians 
for reference the population was 26million at the last census, and 91% of that is something like 23,660,000, so there's still a few million people who'd love to attack queer people, i've met plenty, but honestly most people dngaf about trans people, and have not met one irl
I highly doubt this is a reflection of Australians in general (meaning rural Australia). More like a reflection of Australians in the state capitals who are much, much more progressive.
I mean, most of Australia voted 'no' when it came to indigenous rights recently...
Yep, that's definitely true but unless you live here, you most likely won't understand what i would have meant by state capitals.
Australia is generally conservative politically and only last year had a huge ruckus in a lot of our local council meetings with regards to drag queens reading to children.
Additionally, there's nothing in the article or Equality Australia's website as to who and where they polled. My only concern is for a trans asylum seeker to arrive here expecting 91% of Australia to welcome them and end up in one of our many dodgy suburbs and get hurt.
I find this news very encouraging, but also really hard to believe.
I'm no longer on speaking terms with my mother and two brothers over their pro Ameriacn fascist regime position - and the anti trans stance of said regime is the main attraction for them. They all live in circles of friends where this is normal.
I'm sorry you had to cut your family out but ultimately you don't need that toxicity in your life so we'll done for improving your life in one easy action!
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Almacca@aussie.zone · 46 pts · 289d
Anything less than 100% is a bit disappointing, to be honest, but this is promising. Trans rights are human rights!
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 67 pts · 289d
90% for an issue like this is really fucking impressive, to the point I doubt the result. If you ask people about anything, there will be 5-10% of people who mishear/misread the question/accidentally click on the wrong button/don't care about the poll/etc. If you asked people whether they are currently alive, you will get similar numbers. See also: https://xkcd.com/2305/ .
Almacca@aussie.zone · 21 pts · 289d
This is all true, and yes 91% is remarkably high, and functionally unanimous. I'm just a bit salty that it's even a question.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 289d
To be fair it is probably near the number of people who do not want spiders injected into their blood.
GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 289d
The poll was done by redbridge, one of the major political pollsters here. Though pollsters do occasionally get it wrong on political issues, I honestly don't think they would publish such an overwhelming result if they didn't believe it was robust.
Though the op's article was from October, the poll was done and published early this year, just before our federal elections. The same election where the conservatives tried to go with MAGA-style culture wars. So if I had to guess, there may be an element of fatigue with the strategy of cosying up with the far right fringes shown in the result of the poll.
And yet they still didn't get the message. After their disastrous loss, there were still many in the party that said it was because they didn't go far enough right..
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 289d
I think they understand perfectly well. Fascists are stupid on purpose.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 289d
...what does 24% of Americans have against kittens? 🤔
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 26 pts · 289d
100% of people don't even think the earth is round. Please lower your expectations.
jnod4@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 289d
Ubajaoa
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 289d
It's absolutely not all of you. Flat earth Nazis are a thing.
jaek@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 289d
I want to see the flat earth nazis fight the moonbase nazis. Preferably to the death.
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 289d
Unlike leftists, Nazis are really good at working with people they disagree with. They purge in stages, starting with the most isolated targets, like trans people. They only go after other Nazis when they already control the government.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 288d
It's because they are amoral and have no real ideology beyond control.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca · 11 pts · 289d
Are there any issues that have 100% agreement on anything?
Very impressive to see 91% though. Go Australia!
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 289d
"Ted Cruz is not sexy"
"It's impolite to stab your neighbors without a good reason"
"Asbestos pizza is a bad idea"
"A municipal skate park is a bad venue for professional football"
"Viking Hippie should have stopped 2 examples ago"
_AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 289d
the last one is not 100% agreed on I think you should have kept going :3
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 289d
"Stepping on a Lego brick barefoot is unpleasant"
"It's generally preferable to not get cancer"
“Hats exist"
"Manchester United FC suck"
"Michael Vick would be a suboptimal spokesperson for PETA"
"Capybaras are chill as fuck"
"There are many pictures and videos of cats on the internet"
"Yogi Bear probably wasn't being homophobic when he claimed to be smarter than the average bear"
"Adulting is hard"
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 289d
Maybe the other 9% are trans and like a great secret beach don't want everyone to know how fabulous it is to be trans!
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 289d
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 289d
That's honestly an amazingly high number, at least compared to my experience in the US. If it weren't for the climate I'd want to move to Australia
Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone · 17 pts · 289d
We're the 6th largest country on the planet, we stretch from tropical rain forests in the north, to deserts in the west, to snowy mountains in the south with everything in between What climate are you looking for?
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
Is the south as cold as like the northern US? I currently live in the mid-atlantic US but if I could actually afford to move I think I would want somewhere a little colder than where I am now
GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 289d
Yeah, you're not going to get that in Australia. The latitude goes down to about 42° South in Tasmania. Boston is about 42° North. I know there's much more to the climate than just latitude, but gives you some idea.
Interesting that you'd like it colder. I've moved from Australia to Atlantic Canada and much as I'm loving it here - there's a lot to said for a more temperate climate.
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
I just hate the summer, fall is fine here but I'd rather it be colder all the time in exchange for not being incredibly hot in the summer
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 289d
You might want to look into Scandinavia, Finland, Iceland, the Benelux countries, Northern Germany, Scotland, or Ireland, then.
Of just anywhere in sufficiently high mountains, I guess 🤷
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
Yeah Ireland seems really nice, that would probably be one of my top picks if I was moving
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 289d
As a sassenach I shouldn't really be encouraging this but just been up to Glasgow and it's a very compelling proposition!
It also seems to have a very cheap network of flights into the rest of Europe
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 289d
Apparently yes, in the sense that our buildings are so terribly insulated that there's no real inside/outside temperature difference.
No1@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 289d
PugJesus@piefed.social · 14 pts · 289d
Good on Aussieland!
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 289d
I hope they offer transgender asylum soon
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 289d
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 289d
I would be curious where they did the polling and how many people they spoke too.
I can take you to communities in Australia where trans rights wouldn't even be understood then when explaining them they would want to kill the person.
I just find that number to high
SaneMartigan@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 289d
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 289d
Where from though? The demographics in Melbourne would be very different to Katherine or Alice Springs
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 288d
Polling like this is done over the phone, they take numbers at random, and when you start getting into the 1000s in terms of a response, the samples become pretty accurate in terms of representation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics) theres probably more info here
also the snappy headline saya 91% sure, but looking at the article
for reference the population was 26million at the last census, and 91% of that is something like 23,660,000, so there's still a few million people who'd love to attack queer people, i've met plenty, but honestly most people dngaf about trans people, and have not met one irl
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 289d
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 289d
That's crazy. Idk if we can pass 50% in the us
redwattlebird@lemmings.world · 14 pts · 289d
I highly doubt this is a reflection of Australians in general (meaning rural Australia). More like a reflection of Australians in the state capitals who are much, much more progressive.
I mean, most of Australia voted 'no' when it came to indigenous rights recently...
sirboozebum@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 289d
Australia is one of the most urbanised countries in the industrialised world.
redwattlebird@lemmings.world · 10 pts · 289d
Yep, that's definitely true but unless you live here, you most likely won't understand what i would have meant by state capitals.
Australia is generally conservative politically and only last year had a huge ruckus in a lot of our local council meetings with regards to drag queens reading to children.
Additionally, there's nothing in the article or Equality Australia's website as to who and where they polled. My only concern is for a trans asylum seeker to arrive here expecting 91% of Australia to welcome them and end up in one of our many dodgy suburbs and get hurt.
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 289d
We're still way safer than America, where a lot of refugees are coming from
redwattlebird@lemmings.world · 3 pts · 289d
And thank goodness for that, ay.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 289d
Yeah as an indigenous person i was kinda disappointed by that haha.
On the other hand though to move forward as a nation we really need to move on from the past and all be Australian together
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
Ah nice, now im reading your comments with a thick Australian accent haha
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 289d
Well, you're all gonna be renting housing together forever.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 288d
Why?
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 289d
Sorry about my brother then as he appears to be playing bingo with the number of prejudices he has. Still, at least he hates everyone.
Immigrants are his favourite hate group, strange to say he's not originally from Australia
Funky_Beak@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 289d
Really needed to see this after a bigot i went to school with told me being trans was a mental illness.
GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 289d
I find this news very encouraging, but also really hard to believe.
I'm no longer on speaking terms with my mother and two brothers over their pro Ameriacn fascist regime position - and the anti trans stance of said regime is the main attraction for them. They all live in circles of friends where this is normal.
NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 289d
I'm sorry you had to cut your family out but ultimately you don't need that toxicity in your life so we'll done for improving your life in one easy action!
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 289d
Why so few?
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 289d
Surprised it’s that high, i know even Australia has its share of crazy. I mean…
points at perth
grammerly_dave@lemmings.world · -2 pts · 289d
dreary8154@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 289d
Said the Australis not able to buy homes.