It will be a pleasant surprise if I live to see things get better. I'm confident that things will eventually improve after a massive collapse, assuming the planet hasn't been made uninhabitable by then.
I don't care about spin offs anymore. I just want to get back to the prime timeline. I'm sick of all the goatees (to use a metaphor that's not on the nose but somewhere else in the face)
You've just been living in peace too long never forget the US dropped two atom bombs on Japan and installed a puppet government who was banned from ever having a standing government. Also there was that time not one not two not three but four planes were hijacked at the same time and the only one to miss was the last one heading twords the capital because a bunch of passengers overthrew the hijackers and as a twist ending turns out the country the terrorist was attacking was the real bad guy's the entire time.
If they actually follow through with building that ballroom it's going to be so awful. I think the "plans" for the ballroom say it's like twice the size of the whitehouse. I bet it's going to be gold AF, gaudy, and generally atrocious. That being said idk what's more likely, building the ballroom or just tearing the rest of the whitehouse down.
I dunno, while everyone is mourning the symbolic destruction of the white house palace (that's what it is) I'm thinking it's more of a "broken clock right twice a day" kind of thing. Or at least a "don't stop your enemy when he's making a mistake" kind of thing.
If we want the executive branch to have less power, turning their palace into a permanent clownshow isn't necessarily a step in the wrong direction.
It's only demoralizing if you ever felt reverence for the palace.
Icons are critically important to a culture. The fact that people do have reverence for the institution of the White House is exactly why this imagry strikes a chord with us. It is an important institution and it absolutely reflects the priorities of the current administration (see the Carter-era solar panels).
That said, you hit the nail on the head. Let this administration show their true colors with how they dress up and use the most sacred building in the nation. Never call it anything less than the "Epstein Ballroom."
Yeah I understand completely why it strikes a chord with many. I just think that if the people of a so-called democracy believe that the palace of their elected executive is their most sacred building, it does sort of of prophecize the eventual transformation of that executive, and that building.
I just thought for a moment on what I feel is the most sacred building in our country. What best reflects my idea of the best of what we can be. Preliminary pick, but I unironically believe that the public restroom in Bryant Park NYC is the most sacred building in our nation. No cynicism or sarcasm. That structure embodies some of the most positive virtues of society to me and if something were to happen to it I would be genuinely very upset.
Yes! I did not know that there was a name for this concept. I agree that it can be pretty hokey but I'm also fascinated by the social phenomenon itself. Thanks!
They're just saying that if you wrote a story where the bad guys who were tearing down democracy started literally tearing down the building that represents the government you would be a hack writer.
Most any other building this wouldn't be a thing, but the White House is recognized world-wide as a symbol of the US. It's on our currency, on many plaques, its silhouette is about as representative as the flag itself. Meaning tearing part of it down is a direct reflection of how he's ruining the country, and for the same reason - his ego.
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Klear@quokk.au · 66 pts · 333d
The teachers where right. Current reality is shit writing.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 12 pts · 333d
Wait til you see the spin-offs.
frmrm@peachpie.theatl.social · 4 pts · 333d
Can I hope this is just that massive slump of lousy seasons before we get a bunch of good ones again?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 333d
It will be a pleasant surprise if I live to see things get better. I'm confident that things will eventually improve after a massive collapse, assuming the planet hasn't been made uninhabitable by then.
DaMummy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
Denmark recently offered to buy parts of America. Imagine how great we'd be if that were to happen. If only we had a deal-making president.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 333d
It could only be an improvement!
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 3 pts · 333d
Maybe we'll get our Andor. Both in the sense of the writing and in the theme of hope.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 333d
The question is whether the finale for this one is Chinese bombers over DC obfuscating the sun.
If it gets to there we'll have a season or two before we start seeing hope spots again.
If we're lucky, the revolution will be local, not brought in by the Allies.
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 332d
I don't care about spin offs anymore. I just want to get back to the prime timeline. I'm sick of all the goatees (to use a metaphor that's not on the nose but somewhere else in the face)
Infinite@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 332d
Seriously. We could at least have gotten the hot-lady-midriff version of evil empire. 🙄
besmtt@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 333d
Where what?
Sorry, everything is so fucking awful and getting worse every day that I needed to have some fun. 😮💨
UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 332d
Also doesn't at all feel real
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 333d
You've just been living in peace too long never forget the US dropped two atom bombs on Japan and installed a puppet government who was banned from ever having a standing government. Also there was that time not one not two not three but four planes were hijacked at the same time and the only one to miss was the last one heading twords the capital because a bunch of passengers overthrew the hijackers and as a twist ending turns out the country the terrorist was attacking was the real bad guy's the entire time.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 333d
If they actually follow through with building that ballroom it's going to be so awful. I think the "plans" for the ballroom say it's like twice the size of the whitehouse. I bet it's going to be gold AF, gaudy, and generally atrocious. That being said idk what's more likely, building the ballroom or just tearing the rest of the whitehouse down.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 333d
He could tear it all down and build a bunker in its place, I suppose.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 333d
Pretty sure there's already a bunker there
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 333d
Make it bunkerier.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
Like an American Versailles
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 333d
I dunno, while everyone is mourning the symbolic destruction of the
white housepalace (that's what it is) I'm thinking it's more of a "broken clock right twice a day" kind of thing. Or at least a "don't stop your enemy when he's making a mistake" kind of thing.If we want the executive branch to have less power, turning their palace into a permanent clownshow isn't necessarily a step in the wrong direction.
It's only demoralizing if you ever felt reverence for the palace.
GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 333d
Icons are critically important to a culture. The fact that people do have reverence for the institution of the White House is exactly why this imagry strikes a chord with us. It is an important institution and it absolutely reflects the priorities of the current administration (see the Carter-era solar panels).
That said, you hit the nail on the head. Let this administration show their true colors with how they dress up and use the most sacred building in the nation. Never call it anything less than the "Epstein Ballroom."
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 333d
Yeah I understand completely why it strikes a chord with many. I just think that if the people of a so-called democracy believe that the palace of their elected executive is their most sacred building, it does sort of of prophecize the eventual transformation of that executive, and that building.
I just thought for a moment on what I feel is the most sacred building in our country. What best reflects my idea of the best of what we can be. Preliminary pick, but I unironically believe that the public restroom in Bryant Park NYC is the most sacred building in our nation. No cynicism or sarcasm. That structure embodies some of the most positive virtues of society to me and if something were to happen to it I would be genuinely very upset.
Klear@quokk.au · 6 pts · 333d
I think you're thinking about American civil religion. And yeah, that concept is equal parts spooky and dumb.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 333d
Yes! I did not know that there was a name for this concept. I agree that it can be pretty hokey but I'm also fascinated by the social phenomenon itself. Thanks!
virku@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 333d
Anybody care to tell us non-americans what saying is referenced here?
I am guessing something like «everything is fine as long as the white house is intact»?
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works · 66 pts · 333d
They're just saying that if you wrote a story where the bad guys who were tearing down democracy started literally tearing down the building that represents the government you would be a hack writer.
virku@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 333d
Great way of putting it! Made even more sense to me now
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 17 pts · 333d
Most any other building this wouldn't be a thing, but the White House is recognized world-wide as a symbol of the US. It's on our currency, on many plaques, its silhouette is about as representative as the flag itself. Meaning tearing part of it down is a direct reflection of how he's ruining the country, and for the same reason - his ego.
virku@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 333d
Thanks for the explanation!
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 333d
It just needs to be on fire. Somebody call Canada.