âYou tell us what your salary expectations are.â really just means âlow-ball yourself because youâre scared and we know damn well itâs hard to communicate with other candidates.
Tell me what youâre willing to pay and we can go from there. Tell your employees what that position pays, and have that be available. There is ZERO reason not to unless youâre actively trying to hide something from the people youâre exploiting.
And a message to anyone who thinks itâs ok and isnât even benefitting from it: Shove a hot poker up your ass, idiot.
Yeah, it taints the entire relationship right from the start. So when you know they've already messed it up, keep that in mind: it's your best way to get a raise right off the bat if you play the same game.
The only way to be comfortable in this system is to disadvantage others, step on others' backs. The most ethical way to earn comfort in a greedy capitalist society is to earn, borrow and steal as much money as you can. The moral code of a thief stands: Steal only from the rich.
You have to ask for the money. No one is going to throw it at your feet.
Job before last, boss offers me a raise, told him I thought I should be making at least $50K. "I thought I was paying you that? OK, if you feel your work is worth that, I'll get with payroll and see where we currently are." Got a fatter raise.
Hell, even working a shit job at Lowe's had me an offer on a raise within a few months. Was chatting with the GM in his office one day about a thing I thought should be fixed. He very pointedly told me that if someone working for him felt they were doing a good job and deserved more pay, even if it wasn't time for a scheduled raise, he would be glad to talk about it. HINT. I quit in a huff very soon after that, but at the time we were both trying to get time to meet.
"Fortune favors the bold." True both figuratively and literally.
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Soup@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 308d
âYou tell us what your salary expectations are.â really just means âlow-ball yourself because youâre scared and we know damn well itâs hard to communicate with other candidates.
Tell me what youâre willing to pay and we can go from there. Tell your employees what that position pays, and have that be available. There is ZERO reason not to unless youâre actively trying to hide something from the people youâre exploiting.
And a message to anyone who thinks itâs ok and isnât even benefitting from it: Shove a hot poker up your ass, idiot.
kungen@feddit.nu · 15 pts · 308d
Yeah, it taints the entire relationship right from the start. So when you know they've already messed it up, keep that in mind: it's your best way to get a raise right off the bat if you play the same game.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 308d
That's also why I try to do the least possible.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 307d
If you don't expect promotion or even retention, yeah, quiet quitting naturally follows.
Spend your energy finding your next position in a competing company.
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 308d
The only way to be comfortable in this system is to disadvantage others, step on others' backs. The most ethical way to earn comfort in a greedy capitalist society is to earn, borrow and steal as much money as you can. The moral code of a thief stands: Steal only from the rich.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 308d
You have to ask for the money. No one is going to throw it at your feet.
Job before last, boss offers me a raise, told him I thought I should be making at least $50K. "I thought I was paying you that? OK, if you feel your work is worth that, I'll get with payroll and see where we currently are." Got a fatter raise.
Hell, even working a shit job at Lowe's had me an offer on a raise within a few months. Was chatting with the GM in his office one day about a thing I thought should be fixed. He very pointedly told me that if someone working for him felt they were doing a good job and deserved more pay, even if it wasn't time for a scheduled raise, he would be glad to talk about it. HINT. I quit in a huff very soon after that, but at the time we were both trying to get time to meet.
"Fortune favors the bold." True both figuratively and literally.
Freaky@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 308d
God forbid me having a dream of getting a promotion.
msage@programming.dev · 4 pts · 308d
Promotion: tripple the workload, but for zero additional pay
1984@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 308d
Its still just debt slavery under the hood.
Tja@programming.dev · 3 pts · 308d
Who loses their mind? Aren't salary discussions commonplace every year?
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 308d
No. Yearly salary discussions are only common for highly paid professionals. You must be one.
Most people are lucky to get a COL raise each year. Many do not.
Tja@programming.dev · 2 pts · 308d
I am now, but 20 years ago I wasn't and I still had my yearly performance review and talked to my boss about raises.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 307d
So you got a raise every year to either match or outpace the rate of inflation?
Most performance reviews I have had my desire for more pay was dismissed. And they did that because they knew I couldn't easily find something better
Tja@programming.dev · 0 pts · 307d
I don't think my raises are relevant, the point is that nobody lost their mind. Did they lose their mind in your performance reviews?
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 307d
Yeah lol
If they fucking start code switching and saying stupid shit to dismiss you for a reasonable request then yeah that is not of sound mind.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 306d
most folks don't have as blessed a career path as yours is.
most people get nothing until they move companies.
Tja@programming.dev · 0 pts · 305d
It's not about getting a raise, it's about asking for it.
Anecdotally, my biggest raises were also switching jobs, but that's not the point i (or the meme) was making.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 308d
Can we not write complete sentences anymore?
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 308d
There are two kinds of people; those who can infer.
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -10 pts · 307d
if you ask for a raise and they say no, then keep working or find a better paying job. making a meme about it doesn't change anything.