U.S. Senate votes 50-46 to nullify Trump tariffs on Canada, with four Republicans crossing aisle
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/us-senate-votes-50-46-to-nullify-trump-tariffs-on-canada-with-four-republicans-crossing-aisle/
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Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 164 pts · 323d
If the court was doing their job they would have ruled this unconstitutional in the first place. A tariff is a tax, the executive explicitly does not get that power
pennomi@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 323d
crusa187@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 323d
If they give a fuck about maintaining their power, pass a new law nullifying those specific situation capabilities.
This Canada thing seems like political maneuvering. If Dems vote to gut healthcare for 40M americans as a result, congrats, you’ve now seen how “bipartisan compromise” results in fucking over average American working class.
YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub · 18 pts · 323d
The court is doing its job. Empowering fascists and kneecapping bringing them to justice when they aren’t in power. The point of a system is what it does.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 8 pts · 323d
yeah they should be nullifying them all as congress has tax powers.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 323d
And then what? The courts have no enforcement arm. I believe your founding fathers didn't see how corrupt we would become.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 116 pts · 323d
Think about how mentally ill this entire scenario is for a second... Congress voted to deny king fascist from doing something he never possessed the ability to do in the first place. Like, his executive orders about tariffs are supposed to be completely ignored, yet businesses and the government have been illegally collecting tariffs anyway, because a pathological liar lied and declared a "national emergency".
The USA is a lawless, failed state ass, corporate klepto dictatorship masquerading as "democracy"...
aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com · 32 pts · 323d
Auli@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 323d
No America is the Republican party is a symptom of the rot. And so are the Democrats they never undo all the republicans do so it is a slide to the right always.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 322d
Yeah, painting is easy when you're using a brush the size of the wall.
nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 9 pts · 323d
The MAGA party that swallowed the Republican party
A lot of people are going to need deprogramming. Make it easy on them
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 323d
I really hope we get to that point. But we are trending the wrong fucking way for that right now.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 323d
The whole democratic world is sliding right.
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 323d
I think the Internet was a mistake. I blame it.
Soupbreaker@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 322d
Social media was certainly a mistake. And yet, here we are.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 322d
America is what America does, not what America conveniently claims to be.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 323d
Not to distract from the importance of your point, but due to the layout of your message I spent an embarrassingly long time trying to figure out how you made letters extra thin.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 323d
So what's going to happen when Trump vetoes this?
Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 322d
Kicked back. Overruled by 2/3 supermajority in house+senate.
Given that the EO exceeded branch powers in the first place, that there is now blood in the water, and considering how unpopular this additional sales tax is becoming among both consumers and business owners, it’s not impossible that votes would flip to overturn.
In that case, however, expect another EO to preempt the result by yet again reversing tariffs for specific cases.
All of this back and forth takes time. We won’t be completely rid of tariffs until the 2026 midterms, at the earliest, and that is only if a supermajority of “Demoncrats” and “RINOs” are elected, unfortunately.
Businesses could revolt and stop collecting tariffs in anticipation of this, but it’s a risk they probably won’t take, because they’re all afraid of Trump.
verdi@feddit.org · 4 pts · 323d
*meme Always has been...
Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 323d
Take away his ability to implement tariffs at all. That should be up to Congress along with things like declaring war.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 322d
And make "war in everything but name" considered war too.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 323d
First Brazil, now Canada. DO THE REST!
jacksilver@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 323d
It only matters if the house actually comes back from it's prolonged recess (most likely to avoid voting on Epstein files).
Even then, it's unlikely for the house to pass this as Republicans have a much larger majority there.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 323d
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 323d
Fuck yes!
But this is not forgotten and Trump is definitely not going to let this stand.
Also people should face consequences for unconstitutionally doing this.
tamiya_tt02@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 322d
ELI5: How can they vote on shit when the government is shut down? Help me out here.
twice_hatch@midwest.social · 15 pts · 322d
Iirc, only the House is shut down. Someone said this is symbolic, with the House shut down this would never reach the President, who would certainly veto it anyway.
Republicans don't cross the aisle when it would mean anything. They just want to say they voted for something good, even though everyone can tell it won't pass
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 322d
Only the house is down. The only reason the house is down is so they can avoid swearing in Adelita Grijalva and having to vote on Epstein stuff. House GOP are huge sore losing cowards.
The government shutdown doesn't interfere with either house or senate doing business.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 12 pts · 323d
He can literally veto the damn thing. Nothing changes unless he's gone.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 323d
Does this also need to pass in the house? (where they are not meeting because of the funding vote?)
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 322d
Forget the house, without 2/3rds vote, it can't pass Trump. He can just veto it
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 322d
Shhh, he may have never learned he can do that.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 7 pts · 323d
That’s really close.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 323d
Hyenas scavenge as a pack?
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 323d
I can only hear Whoopi Goldberg‘s voice right now, and a background of cackles