cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/38168694
Guys Join the community! Men are welcome here! Ladies like myself, we are quick to jump into discussions about menopause to seek help and guidance. Well, no one is really talking about MAN-OPAUSE, men experience this decline in hormones and overall well-being too. Share your story, let the community hear your voice and let us know your thoughts!
33 Comments
LemUrun@pawb.social · 11 pts · 300d
Andropause, for fucks sake
Perimenopause@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 299d
Yes, andropause is the medical term - where some men develop depression, loss of sex drive, erectile dysfunction and other physical and emotional symptoms - some doctors don't treat soon enough when they should and tend to medically gaslight their patients which means they're not being heard or validated, I hope this is a space where they can do that
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 299d
Just for clarification male pattern hair loss is due to hair follicle sensitivity to DHT or dihydrotestosterone. It can happen wirh low of high testosterone. Its also why DHT blockers like finasteride and dutasteride are treatments and not testosterone replacement therapy. There is some evidence that TRT in men with low T and transgender women transitioning to men actually accelerates hair loss.
Perimenopause@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
Interesting. Andropause is different in several way compared to menopause for women but it's the same, it several ways in terms of how you feel and lack of energy etc.
olafurp@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 299d
The most important syntpom of our time is androgenic alopecia. This is why we need to fund more research into this subject. /s
HubertManne@piefed.social · 6 pts · 299d
I mean I may be in that stage but honestly your body sorta goes downhill around thirty so I sorta lump it in with the rest of aging.
Perimenopause@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 299d
I think it's quite common as well, but I've decided if therapy is available, I want my energy back.
msokiovt@lemmy.today · -5 pts · 300d
I wouldn't call it manopause, but by the same token, that's just a bad lifestyle. It's us who are letting ourselves have this issues in the first place.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 300d
no, there's an actual process men go through as they age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late-onset_hypogonadism
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 5 pts · 300d
This article states
axexrx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 300d
'Many of these symptoms may arise'
Doesn't say there can't be an age related cause though. Thats like claiming the flu doesnt exist because other things can cause a fever and aches.
confuser@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 299d
Aging is a term we use to describe the outcome of a slurry of decades long accumulation of bad habits
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 300d
I took a look at this article, and can say it's inconclusive on the matter. It looks to be data that comes from studies funded by Big Pharma, judging by the brands of testosterone medication.
Empricorn@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 300d
You think natural, age-related metabolic, hormonal, pituitary, and hair-loss issues are lifestyle-related!? That is unhinged.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 300d
Lack of exercise can certainly exacerbate those first two issues.
msokiovt@lemmy.today · -3 pts · 300d
I live this so-called "unhinged" type of deal after researching it. I think it'd be best to recommend looking in the mirror and changing the problems you have with your lifestyle. You'd realize you had too many to count, and lifestyle changes would certainly help with your health.
Empricorn@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 299d
So, you can't even answer the question. That definitely sounds like you're on the right side of logic.
msokiovt@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 299d
I had a sneaking suspicion you took it out of context. The reason why I put quotes on "unhinged" was because it's normal for people like me, who legitimately want to be healthy, to not do the things most will do, because of laziness, bad quality food (with chemicals banned elsewhere), and other factors like pharmaceutical substances. Those are all foreign substances, and therefore, cannot be in the body.
That's an actual commandment from the Scriptures (I don't recall the book that comes from).
Perimenopause@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 300d
hmm, interesting. How are men letting themselves have those issues? What would you consider to be a bad lifestlye? Not working out, too much beer and bratwurst? I'm not a man so I have no idea!
msokiovt@lemmy.today · -5 pts · 300d
I would say, first and formost, bad quality food (what Jack Spirko calls feed), which consists of ingredients that are unpronounceable, gluten, cow's milk with chemicals pumped into the cows, refined sugars (cane sugar has almost the exact same process as cocaine), seed oils (people do not want to get rid of seed oils, despite them messing up their brains and guts) and soy (that's good at altering hormone levels, specifically estrogen or testosterone depending on the sex assigned at birth).
Exercise raises dopamine levels (not lowering them), and yet, people who have a sedentary lifestyle tend to suffer a lot (while I'm sedentary myself, I eat almost nothing I described above, with exception to some seed oils, which is how I kept my weight in check). It's more of a serotonin toxicity people tend to see in their systems due to balance issues.
This affects both sexes, not just males.
threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 300d
Skill issue :)
msokiovt@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 300d
Skill issue? Not wanting to eat things with ingredients you can't read is a skill issue? This I find strange, especially since I'd want to read ingredients very well, and not have anything with basically chemicals (we're lab rats here in America).
shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 300d
How about:
Hydrogen oxide
Hydrogen hydroxide
Hydroxylic acid
Dihydrogen monoxide
Dihydrogen oxide
Hydric acid
Hydrohydroxic acid
Hydroxic acid
Hydroxoic acid
Hydrol
μ-Oxidodihydrogen
κ1-Hydroxylhydrogen(0)
not_me@piefed.social · 1 pts · 271d
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 300d
The last two I struggled for a moment, but the others I got just fine. Is that all having to do with some forms of water or something like that?
shalafi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 299d
Not familiar with the nomenclature on the last two, came from the Wiki on "water". Point being, a lot of "unpronounceable" ingredients are perfectly normal chemicals.
The contents of an apple are less jokey and more to my point:
Perimenopause@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 300d
I hope this get's upvoted to the heavens! You spoke nothing but facts. Nutrition plays such a huge part. I've said it before and I'll said it here: If you can't pronounced it, you shouldn't put it in your mouth. You nailed it. What's the best nutrition plan you think people should adopt, Mediterranean, high protein low carb, keto, vegan? What nutrition plan or lifestyle are you on? You sound like you're on a specific lifestyle that works for you.
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 300d
It depends on the body type. I may be A+ in my blood type, but I tend to do high protein-low carb. Veganism and vegetarianism was proven to cause more problems than solve from what I read on the matter, as plants have mechanisms to defend themselves (usually in the form of lectins) against being eaten. Some who want to seriously heal say a carnivore diet would be very well.
Since I happened to be diagnosed as a classical autist (I'm level 1 though), one chiropractor recommends a carnivore diet with microgreens and sprouts as modifications for it. For those who listen to Dr. Eric Berg, he's the one who would do this plan for those with autism, but it might not work for everyone.
Perimenopause@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 300d
I also cycle high protein low card and I do intermittent fasting 1 to 2 times a week, that helps as well. Nice! Oddly enough, I've seen some vegans who don't look very healthy. It's a common misconception that all vegan food is healthy. Most of it is healthy, but some can get you in a lot of trouble.
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 300d
I actually tend to do a 6-8 hour fast every day, and sometimes, even longer if necessary. My producer, Neigsendoig, does the exact same thing, so we knew a thing or two about it for some time.
Perimenopause@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 300d
Yes sir, that's what I figured. You sound very educated on an acceptable nutrition plan and one that's not. This community needs voices like yours, feel free to post here whenever you want. You're perspective will never be downvoted by me, even if we do not always have the same views! Welcome to the community!