This implies that microplastics were inevitable because of the industrial revolution instead of because of the oil industry destroying regulation for 100 years.
According to Karl Marx (in Das Kapital ) the deregulation of industry for sake of profit is inevitable.
It's cheaper to capture government than it is to follow regulations (which, in turn, are meant to serve the public, sometimes protect the public from industry)
Some nations are trying to make the capture process slow or difficult, but none have stopped it, and it only accelerates.
Only on the presumption that we didn't detect it and aim for solutions sooner (e.g. invent circular recycling of plastics, replace major causes of microplastics with degradeable alternatives, say, vulcanized rubber with rubber and mushrooms).
Also the society's response in this late hour would probably be more effective than a disinformation campaign and a shrug.
I think it's safe to assume that if we had stronger regulations, some of which were first implemented 1980, we'd be looking at significantly less than now.
Agreed, but 1980 was the beginning of the Reagan-Bush era and massive environmental deregulation, which only got worse through Clinton and George W. Bush.
The great conservative movement killed conservation.
Your phrasing seems to indicate that you're refuting my point when it strengthens it? Yeah if we had followed the Republican bare minimum instead of letting the bottom drop out it'd already be significantly less of an issue.
Can someone smart clear this up for me? I thought distillation was the process of evaporating liquids then cooling them to form just the pure liquid on the other end, if this can happen in rain, could micro plastics find their way into distilled water too?
Evaporation ≠ distillation. Nature doesn't have filters everywhere. That's not to say that nature doesn't have filters, but they are seemingly sparse in the air.
Maybe it's more about sterile conditions then, in a glass tube you're probably counting on the way that the water moves through it, I keep thinking back to the game raft and how they "distill" water, always made me wonder if it would really work
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mushroommunk@lemmy.today · 60 pts · 323d
"Taste the rainbow" getting new meaning
optissima@lemmy.ml · 54 pts · 323d
This implies that microplastics were inevitable because of the industrial revolution instead of because of the oil industry destroying regulation for 100 years.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 323d
According to Karl Marx (in Das Kapital ) the deregulation of industry for sake of profit is inevitable.
It's cheaper to capture government than it is to follow regulations (which, in turn, are meant to serve the public, sometimes protect the public from industry)
Some nations are trying to make the capture process slow or difficult, but none have stopped it, and it only accelerates.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 323d
But supporting their central point, Marx did propose a solution that would
makehave made microplastics evitable.uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 323d
Only on the presumption that we didn't detect it and aim for solutions sooner (e.g. invent circular recycling of plastics, replace major causes of microplastics with degradeable alternatives, say, vulcanized rubber with rubber and mushrooms).
Also the society's response in this late hour would probably be more effective than a disinformation campaign and a shrug.
optissima@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 322d
I think it's safe to assume that if we had stronger regulations, some of which were first implemented 1980, we'd be looking at significantly less than now.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 322d
Agreed, but 1980 was the beginning of the Reagan-Bush era and massive environmental deregulation, which only got worse through Clinton and George W. Bush.
The great conservative movement killed conservation.
optissima@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 321d
Your phrasing seems to indicate that you're refuting my point when it strengthens it? Yeah if we had followed the Republican bare minimum instead of letting the bottom drop out it'd already be significantly less of an issue.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 321d
They literally started the comment out with the word "agreed" lol
maccentric@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 323d
Would have made—that cat is out of the barn
Emerald@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 322d
Plastic is made from petroleum. Petroleum is natural and good for you. I use a 1/4 tsp of petroleum in my water for flavor and I turned out fine.
optissima@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 321d
No kidding my MiL said this about eating blackberries right off the highway during leaded gasoline times.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 321d
Extra sweet!
Emerald@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 321d
Well yeah, don't drink leaded gasoline of course, just the unleaded flavor
optissima@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 321d
But leaded is presweetened!
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 323d
"In 1804, Richard Trevithick developed the high pressure steam engine, unwhittingly dooming all of humanity."
CubbyTustard@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 323d
ol' Dick Thicc we called 'im
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 17 pts · 323d
The first nobhead to pick up a stick to use as a tool kicked off a technological singularity and now we’re buggered.
TheBat@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 323d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 323d
HEY ED CHECK OUT THIS COOL THING I GOT ITS CALLED A GUN MAKE THESE INSTEAD
peter nooooo
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 323d
Can someone smart clear this up for me? I thought distillation was the process of evaporating liquids then cooling them to form just the pure liquid on the other end, if this can happen in rain, could micro plastics find their way into distilled water too?
halfapage@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 323d
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 15 pts · 323d
Raindrops always condensate around a little dust particle referred to as nucleus, afaik
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 323d
yeah, i'd think the nucleus for these raindrops were microplastic clouds
R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 322d
Horrific
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 322d
oh don't worry tomorrow has fresh new horrors unlike the ones we have at home
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 323d
Evaporation ≠ distillation. Nature doesn't have filters everywhere. That's not to say that nature doesn't have filters, but they are seemingly sparse in the air.
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 323d
Distillation doesn't use filters either
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 323d
Maybe it's more about sterile conditions then, in a glass tube you're probably counting on the way that the water moves through it, I keep thinking back to the game raft and how they "distill" water, always made me wonder if it would really work
Mubelotix@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 323d
It's actually not. It still carries all kinds of stuff
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 323d
It could just be the wind that was hanging out in the same spot as the rain. Wind can carry stuff reeeeeaaaaaally far.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 323d
It's rainin' [green plastic army] men, Hallelujah!
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 323d
Plastic is just gray goo in slow motion.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 323d
It doesn't reproduce though.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 323d
It doesn't have to if we keep producing new stuff that sinks into the environment and lingers there for eons.
Once we die out, it's going to put a damper on all the biomes trying to recover from the Holocene extinction.
FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 321d
Free filament for 3d printers