Germany’s parliament recently held a special session to discuss whether members of the far-right Alternative for Germany party (AfD) may have been deliberately acting in Russia’s interests. The debate was initiated by lawmakers from the Social Democrats (SPD) and the conservative CDU/CSU bloc, who demanded explanations from AfD’s leadership after the populist party made a series of unusually detailed parliamentary inquiries into the state of the country’s defense and cybersecurity systems, according to a report by Der Spiegel.
Thomas Röwekamp, chair of the Bundestag’s Defense Committee and a CDU member, said AfD lawmakers had submitted “systematically connected and extremely detailed” questions about the Bundeswehr’s capabilities and “combat readiness gaps.” The scope and level of detail, he said, “cannot be explained by a legitimate interest in parliamentary oversight of the government.” Röwekamp suggested that the effort appeared to be “a targeted and systematic collection of military information from the Defense Ministry and the Bundeswehr, information of significant value to foreign powers — in particular Russia, which has for years continuously intensified its espionage and hybrid attacks against Germany.”
Georg Maier, interior minister of the German state of Thuringia, earlier said his ministry had observed similar AfD inquiries in the state parliament, focusing on transport, energy, and digital infrastructure. He suggested the party might be “acting on the Kremlin’s orders” in its inquiries.
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24 Comments
tfm@piefed.europe.pub · 55 pts · 310d
How about just forbidding the party already?!
Pechente@feddit.org · 28 pts · 310d
Who should the CDU have a coalition with then?
/sSuccessful_Try543@feddit.org · 18 pts · 310d
Nobody. Their former voters will magically start voting (again) for the CDU once the AfD is forbidden.
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 310d
"but muh free speech"
Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 14 pts · 310d
That's not about free speech (we don't have that in the US American understanding), but about whether the party is acting against the liberal democratic basic order.
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 310d
Yeah I know and I agree, both AfD and RN should be banned. They have no place in a democracy
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 2 pts · 310d
What's RN?
BestBouclettes@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 310d
Rassemblement National, the French
nazisfar rightRothe@piefed.social · 6 pts · 310d
Which it definitely is.
Successful_Try543@feddit.org · 6 pts · 310d
Let's hope, that finally some authoity has the guts to file a complaint.
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 0 pts · 310d
That's very difficult, because the law banning right wing parties has to be written in a way so they don't accidentally ban the CDU as well.
tfm@piefed.europe.pub · 4 pts · 310d
There wouldn't be a new law for this. The courts would ban it after a review
RidderSport@feddit.org · 6 pts · 310d
Not the courts but the federal constitutional court.
django@discuss.tchncs.de · 35 pts · 310d
So they are just a bunch of traitors.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 310d
Always have been
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 310d
When haven't fascists been traitors?
Usually they do things like internationally isolating their country, leading to economic problems and poverty due to lack of international trade, or even outright picking unwinnable fights with the rest of the world, leading to eventual, inevitable, and total defeat, additionally they will imprison and/or kill a large part of their own population.
What is destroying or severely damaging your own country (all while pretending you love it) and imprisoning and killing its people, if not treason?
atro_city@fedia.io · 15 pts · 310d
But ask the judicial system to ban the party? Nooooo! Convince your voters with democratic arguments as to why the rich shouldn't be taxed and why immigrants are the problem.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 310d
This isn't your Göebbels' propaganda machine. They've fine-tuned it to perfection: picking out the exact type they're looking for and feeding them a highly concentrated line to produce the exact result they want (voting for fascists).
We tried to tell everyone but for some reason it didn't get picked up in the press very much.
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 310d
Even with the more sophisticated targeting (we can thank technological progress for that), it's still using methods pioneered by Göbbels. For example retelling the same lie over and over again, until people start to believe it.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 310d
Oh sure, it’s just evolved to be more brainfucky.
Econode@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 310d
That fits like the fist on the eye as the Germans say.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 310d
Like ass on bucket
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 4 pts · 310d
Like bullet in nazi brain
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 310d
Is the sky blu? Does it hurt when i hit you with an axe?