Except bacon. Damn. I have eaten home cooked Bacon in Scotland that hit me so hard, I entered a new dimension. That level of nuance in flavor has never been replicated by any food or anyone ever since. True perfection.
Apart from that: yea. Worked in a british kitchen and the chef completely butchered defrosting the veg multiple times. Like how dense can you be? Also - as a German - their lack of real bread is unfogivable.
Europe and its settler nations have an interesting history with spice. When colonialism expanded its availability to the lower classes it became something that "lesser peoples" indulged in while aristocrats took pride in eating food undefiled by "alterations" of flavor (many cultures would call it an enhancement).
That attitude persisted to a degree to the modern day. When I was growing up in the 80s and 90s amidst the descendants of european settlers and immigrants, spice was not seen in a positive light. In fact, many in that demographic would proudly proclaim it gave them profuse diarrhea and would joke that people in the nations from which those foods originated must simply have diarrhea all the time.
Which obviously is not true, and I cant say why or when it happened, but the culture shifted to you're the precious one for not being able to handle this and I'll say I've enjoyed the comedy around it ever since.
I get everything you're saying, but genuinely, taste is still subjective. Call them picky eaters if you want, but some people just genuinely don't like spiciness in any capacity. For some people even black pepper is too much. And, who cares? If they want to eat something without any spice at all, why does it bother people?
Oh I wouldn't take it too seriously. Back in the day it was very racially driven and definitely punching down so to speak. Nowadays it's mostly directed at descendants of Europeans, perhaps as a reaction to the past, but if it's happening in the Western world I see it as punching up and more along the lines of a harmless joke.
At our high school we managed to convince the teachers to allow a pepper eating competition. We had quite a few Hispanic and South Asian folk that could definitely handle their capsaicin but it was a white lad that won in the end through sheer force of will. He had to call out of school for a few days due to aftereffects. But it was clearly something important to him. He wore the mantle proudly despite the consequences.
Actually, I do genuinely think it's a reaction to the past and things will balance out over time. When I was growing up spicy cuisine was very much met with disdain. Kids would make faces, pinch their noses, verbalize disgust (while eating their nutritionally rich lunchables). I know you'll say well that's children but it did continue into young adulthood and it was fairly clear the parents felt that way too. So I can't help but feel a little vindicated by how those tables have turned. Especially since I and many others had to resort to eating blander foods to avoid ostracization.
It's literally subjective. Some people have sensory issues. Some people are autistic. Lumping everyone with zero spice tolerance in as boring borders on ableism.
Both sides are not exactly the same. We just want to not be disenfranchised. We want to have a bloodless revolution every election cycle. We want to be free to vote how we want.
Perhaps supporting democracy is a purity test the democrats cannot pass alongside their republican friends.
44 Comments
etherphon@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 287d
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 287d
Brits are allergic to flavor
VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 286d
Except bacon. Damn. I have eaten home cooked Bacon in Scotland that hit me so hard, I entered a new dimension. That level of nuance in flavor has never been replicated by any food or anyone ever since. True perfection.
Apart from that: yea. Worked in a british kitchen and the chef completely butchered defrosting the veg multiple times. Like how dense can you be? Also - as a German - their lack of real bread is unfogivable.
(Love the northern landscape though)
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 287d
I don't see what's wrong with catering to people with different tastes.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 287d
Europe and its settler nations have an interesting history with spice. When colonialism expanded its availability to the lower classes it became something that "lesser peoples" indulged in while aristocrats took pride in eating food undefiled by "alterations" of flavor (many cultures would call it an enhancement).
That attitude persisted to a degree to the modern day. When I was growing up in the 80s and 90s amidst the descendants of european settlers and immigrants, spice was not seen in a positive light. In fact, many in that demographic would proudly proclaim it gave them profuse diarrhea and would joke that people in the nations from which those foods originated must simply have diarrhea all the time.
Which obviously is not true, and I cant say why or when it happened, but the culture shifted to you're the precious one for not being able to handle this and I'll say I've enjoyed the comedy around it ever since.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 287d
I get everything you're saying, but genuinely, taste is still subjective. Call them picky eaters if you want, but some people just genuinely don't like spiciness in any capacity. For some people even black pepper is too much. And, who cares? If they want to eat something without any spice at all, why does it bother people?
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 287d
Oh I wouldn't take it too seriously. Back in the day it was very racially driven and definitely punching down so to speak. Nowadays it's mostly directed at descendants of Europeans, perhaps as a reaction to the past, but if it's happening in the Western world I see it as punching up and more along the lines of a harmless joke.
At our high school we managed to convince the teachers to allow a pepper eating competition. We had quite a few Hispanic and South Asian folk that could definitely handle their capsaicin but it was a white lad that won in the end through sheer force of will. He had to call out of school for a few days due to aftereffects. But it was clearly something important to him. He wore the mantle proudly despite the consequences.
Actually, I do genuinely think it's a reaction to the past and things will balance out over time. When I was growing up spicy cuisine was very much met with disdain. Kids would make faces, pinch their noses, verbalize disgust (while eating their nutritionally rich lunchables). I know you'll say well that's children but it did continue into young adulthood and it was fairly clear the parents felt that way too. So I can't help but feel a little vindicated by how those tables have turned. Especially since I and many others had to resort to eating blander foods to avoid ostracization.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 287d
These are some basic motherfuckers you are simping for
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 4 pts · 287d
If acknowledging different people have different food tastes is simping then yeah I'm simping.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 286d
Yes, won't someone think of the aggressively boring people?!
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 286d
It's literally subjective. Some people have sensory issues. Some people are autistic. Lumping everyone with zero spice tolerance in as boring borders on ableism.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 286d
Acidic father enjoyer detected
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 285d
I enjoyed this comment lol
baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 287d
i know someone with geographic tongue for whom even just a little bit too much pepper physically hurts and burns on her tongue.
etherphon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 287d
Nothing really, it's just a counter point.
Hyper_red@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 286d
I moved to Ireland and ITS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND SPICY SALSA IN STORES IT DRIVES ME INSANE!!!!
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 286d
blame the anglophone cousine
etherphon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 286d
Trade you some salsa for some socialism.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 287d
There’s also the secret menu for those who don’t order in English and it’s just an incendiary grenade in the mouth
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 286d
but it is a tasty one, spicy good
Etterra@discuss.online · 4 pts · 286d
In fairness capsaicin does make me throw up acid.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 287d
BLuE MaGa
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 287d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 287d
BoTh SiDeS ArE tHe sAmE!!1
CrAyOnS YuMm
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 287d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 287d
USian isn't a thing. Blocked.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 287d
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 287d
USian here, please keep speaking truth. We deserve a real left, but for that to happen people need to wake up
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 286d
I prefer Amerikkkan because Amerikkka is a racist settler colonial project
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 286d
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 286d
Yeah USian isn't a thing, it's AmeriKKKan because AmeriKKKa is a racist settler colonial project
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 286d
Oh wow try not to cut yourself on such edge, very smart and definitely not lonely person.
Edit: Lmao the cringest user profile I maybe have ever seen, and I used to use reddit.
Some gems:
"Voting is Not Harm Reduction" yes you are so morally pure!!! Great going, discouraging voting with lies.
"Apt-get install anarchism" lolololol
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 286d
Yeah and your profile is empty and devoid of thought, just like you 😆
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 286d
When you're definitely not mad, so you start digging into someone's profile
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 287d
Do you announce every action you do through your account?
"Replying to TrickDacy!"
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 287d
Oh look another accelerationist crayon eater
adb@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 286d
Accelerate what? Sorry to break it to you but facism is no longer at the door, it came in and is making itself pretty comfortable.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 287d
Both sides are not exactly the same. We just want to not be disenfranchised. We want to have a bloodless revolution every election cycle. We want to be free to vote how we want.
Perhaps supporting democracy is a purity test the democrats cannot pass alongside their republican friends.
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First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
STAR voting
Alternative vote
Ranked Choice voting
Range Voting
Single Transferable Vote
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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 286d
Ew no I want to literally burn capitalism and the State to the fucking ground.