Lol obviously you can make a burger way cheaper at home. Only the exaggeration was ever the issue for me. If I was making 10 burgers at home, I would've assumed $50+ honestly. That's a shit ton of burgers.
I dunno man, lately I've seen the onion thing on a lot of tacos and it's being touted as the authentic Mexican way (and white onions too). And the burger thing I'll admit is not incredibly common but it's happened to me many times over the years and it's always a shock. On hotdogs with chili it's basically standard.
Thank you for validating this as unpopular. However I think it shouldn't be. Vegetable flavor is basically muted without at least some cooking. Even if you're into the texture (which I very much am not), the flavor aspect should matter more, seems to me.
Raw onions come on burgers, hotdogs, and tacos fairly often. And broccoli and cauliflower come on veggie platters. In addition broccoli to me often seems barely steamed. That one is subject to a fairly fine line for me though. If you under or overcook it I'm gonna hate it either way.
I was like "wow what a reasoned take, I like cory doctorow for basically everything he says". Then I read your username and almost did a spit take. Lol
I didn't mean you were dismissing my tastes really, just that ingredient differences would be relevant to this discussion. These kinds of threads tend to drift in focus due to UI issues (hard to view the whole thread without getting distracted) and the passage of time, but what I'm getting at is still just that 1) the original comment touting 20 burgers for $25 is between very difficult and impossible from all I know, and 2) even if it were possible, they would be quite different from even most $10, let alone $25 burgers.
Again, our grocery stores here are pretty close to national standard prices but our restaurants are on the expensive end. Despite those facts, I would struggle myself to make even 15 burgers for $25, and at the same time, I have no trouble finding a higher quality (restaurant) burger than those for $10-15. So from my end it feels like there's a lot of exaggeration going on about the restaurant prices when it comes to burgers. We don't need exaggerations to fully agree: food is very expensive now, of course. I easily remember the McDonald's dollar menu. Doesn't even feel that long ago. I'm pretty sure my $3 meal from that era would easily cost $13 at this point, even from McDonald's. Which is a frightening rate of increase (over 4x in ~20 yrs).
We have differing opinions here obviously. I try to avoid wal-mart as much as I can for several reasons, and that might be key to your ability to make 20 burgers for $25. I mean, granting you everything you're claiming I am still doubting it. For me, even if I went price shopping, and forced myself to be okay with smaller burgers, I'd still be extremely hard pressed to do that, I honestly don't think it would be possible here. Where I live the cost of living is higher than average, but also when I compare grocery prices to small rural towns, they typically aren't too different.
Anyhow, this whole discussion started around how burgers are supposedly $25 now at restaurants. Which isn't true at all. And also the higher priced burgers people are complaining about here will never be just "Pickles, lettuce, tomato, onion, mayo and mustard". They likely will have blue cheese, bacon, avocado, and other higher priced ingredients on them. They likely will be larger than a quarter pound. Not really comparable to the burgers you are describing. You can dismiss that if you like, but personally I love burgers, just not the way you describe them. I don't like raw onions, mustard, mayo, or really even lettuce typically, on my burger. I guess I have expensive tastes when it comes to burgers or something, because I didn't even think I liked them until I was like 15 and I found that they can be made with many different toppings that I do like.
You tried to claim I was a homophobe (zero basis) and now you're pretending I have to prove you're a Nazi to even know what one is. Yeah man I'm totally the one here arguing in bad faith. If you weren't a Nazi you would be denouncing trump right now, but instead you have no problem with thousands of people knowing you voted for him and would do so again.
I meant 20, not 10. 🤦 Not sure if that's the reason for the downvotes or what.
Erm, negatory.
Lol obviously you can make a burger way cheaper at home. Only the exaggeration was ever the issue for me. If I was making 10 burgers at home, I would've assumed $50+ honestly. That's a shit ton of burgers.
I dunno man, lately I've seen the onion thing on a lot of tacos and it's being touted as the authentic Mexican way (and white onions too). And the burger thing I'll admit is not incredibly common but it's happened to me many times over the years and it's always a shock. On hotdogs with chili it's basically standard.
Thank you for validating this as unpopular. However I think it shouldn't be. Vegetable flavor is basically muted without at least some cooking. Even if you're into the texture (which I very much am not), the flavor aspect should matter more, seems to me.
One can never trust a person who loves raw onions. This is next level shit.
Raw onions come on burgers, hotdogs, and tacos fairly often. And broccoli and cauliflower come on veggie platters. In addition broccoli to me often seems barely steamed. That one is subject to a fairly fine line for me though. If you under or overcook it I'm gonna hate it either way.
What you are used to inevitably becomes more natural for you subjectively...
Wtf is an omega star?
I was like "wow what a reasoned take, I like cory doctorow for basically everything he says". Then I read your username and almost did a spit take. Lol
I didn't mean you were dismissing my tastes really, just that ingredient differences would be relevant to this discussion. These kinds of threads tend to drift in focus due to UI issues (hard to view the whole thread without getting distracted) and the passage of time, but what I'm getting at is still just that 1) the original comment touting 20 burgers for $25 is between very difficult and impossible from all I know, and 2) even if it were possible, they would be quite different from even most $10, let alone $25 burgers.
Again, our grocery stores here are pretty close to national standard prices but our restaurants are on the expensive end. Despite those facts, I would struggle myself to make even 15 burgers for $25, and at the same time, I have no trouble finding a higher quality (restaurant) burger than those for $10-15. So from my end it feels like there's a lot of exaggeration going on about the restaurant prices when it comes to burgers. We don't need exaggerations to fully agree: food is very expensive now, of course. I easily remember the McDonald's dollar menu. Doesn't even feel that long ago. I'm pretty sure my $3 meal from that era would easily cost $13 at this point, even from McDonald's. Which is a frightening rate of increase (over 4x in ~20 yrs).
We have differing opinions here obviously. I try to avoid wal-mart as much as I can for several reasons, and that might be key to your ability to make 20 burgers for $25. I mean, granting you everything you're claiming I am still doubting it. For me, even if I went price shopping, and forced myself to be okay with smaller burgers, I'd still be extremely hard pressed to do that, I honestly don't think it would be possible here. Where I live the cost of living is higher than average, but also when I compare grocery prices to small rural towns, they typically aren't too different.
Anyhow, this whole discussion started around how burgers are supposedly $25 now at restaurants. Which isn't true at all. And also the higher priced burgers people are complaining about here will never be just "Pickles, lettuce, tomato, onion, mayo and mustard". They likely will have blue cheese, bacon, avocado, and other higher priced ingredients on them. They likely will be larger than a quarter pound. Not really comparable to the burgers you are describing. You can dismiss that if you like, but personally I love burgers, just not the way you describe them. I don't like raw onions, mustard, mayo, or really even lettuce typically, on my burger. I guess I have expensive tastes when it comes to burgers or something, because I didn't even think I liked them until I was like 15 and I found that they can be made with many different toppings that I do like.
Thank you. I actually understand the fascist mind for this moment in time, at least.
You tried to claim I was a homophobe (zero basis) and now you're pretending I have to prove you're a Nazi to even know what one is. Yeah man I'm totally the one here arguing in bad faith. If you weren't a Nazi you would be denouncing trump right now, but instead you have no problem with thousands of people knowing you voted for him and would do so again.