I don't really have a lot of reason to believe that this will happen, but I wish Mozilla would back off the AI nonsense. I don't want to switch browsers. I think Vivaldi is actually very cool and is my go-to any time a site is misbehaving in FF, but not being FOSS is a big bummer to me.
That said, Vivaldi's built-in web panel feature is SO nice!!
Even if it was foss, it would still be a chromium based rendering engine. Basically Firefox and apple's WebKit are the only things to run to that isn't chromium based, the web is barely staying 'open' as it is.
I'm actually trying it out as my daily driver for a week or so trying to answer that exact question. I've got Pihole on my network so it won't be a true test of Vivaldi alone, but I can say with the weaker Manifest V3 version of uBlock and whatever Vivaldi has built in, I've been satisfied. Granted, it's just been a day, but I tried my damnedest to get some YouTube ads to appear with no success.
all entities are being flashed a lot of cash if they join the AI game and i don't blame firefox for joining in because of it and plus, it'll help them stay around a little bit longer.
I mean whenever anyone says I'm ditching Firefox for , I am genuinely confused. I doubt any of them can maybe except floorp or whichever is owned by an ad company.
But the second time I opened it to find my tabs, browsing history, and literally all other user data, gone... Months apart, with thousands of saved bookmarks and hundreds of tabs lost each time.
I never went back. Deleting everything is just completely unacceptable.
I never found anyone else who'd had it happen, but twice was a pattern I didn't care to repeat.
The inability to video conference reliably [on LibreWolf]
Could someone elaborate on this? Also
I like my browsers to remember when I have zoomed in on a tab
If she means the browser remembering the zoom levels on different pages, this can be done IIRC by disabling resist fingerprinting in about:config and then installing the canvas blocker addon which is not as good as RFP, but for me at least has been a good compromise privacy-wise.
Always wanted to like Vivaldi. Like the aesthetic options but it always feels very bloated a browser. LibreWolf with uBlock can be enough to be highly useful and it feels leaner. I do miss the old Opera with the Presto engine, sigh.
i love firefox and librewolf but ive been using vivaldi more and more since their no ai stance combined with the fact theyre not a us company is really nice. you can also add adblock compatable filterlists to the built in tracker too. just wish they enabled extensions on mobile :(
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OR3X@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 272d
So he traded Firefox for... basically Chromium.
numeral_paver555@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 272d
It's not even open source. Being in Europe doesn't automatically grant you the privacy, let alone the free software rights.
Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 272d
There are cool answers to "what are you replacing Firefox with?"
A Blink-based browser is such a lame answer. It just contributes to furthering Google's control over the space.
not_me@piefed.social · 1 pts · 268d
Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 268d
I guess that works
riley@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 272d
I don't really have a lot of reason to believe that this will happen, but I wish Mozilla would back off the AI nonsense. I don't want to switch browsers. I think Vivaldi is actually very cool and is my go-to any time a site is misbehaving in FF, but not being FOSS is a big bummer to me.
That said, Vivaldi's built-in web panel feature is SO nice!!
paper_moon@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 272d
Even if it was foss, it would still be a chromium based rendering engine. Basically Firefox and apple's WebKit are the only things to run to that isn't chromium based, the web is barely staying 'open' as it is.
The_Grim_Dreamer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 272d
Does Vivaldi match Firefox for adblocking ability? That's always been my highest priority when it comes to browsers.
riley@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 272d
I'm actually trying it out as my daily driver for a week or so trying to answer that exact question. I've got Pihole on my network so it won't be a true test of Vivaldi alone, but I can say with the weaker Manifest V3 version of uBlock and whatever Vivaldi has built in, I've been satisfied. Granted, it's just been a day, but I tried my damnedest to get some YouTube ads to appear with no success.
The_Grim_Dreamer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 272d
First you had my curiosity, now you have my attention. Home pi-hole is something I've been meaning to look into.
dinozaur@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 183d
Vivaldi can still use uBlock Origin(v2). I use that and disable the one built in.
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 272d
all entities are being flashed a lot of cash if they join the AI game and i don't blame firefox for joining in because of it and plus, it'll help them stay around a little bit longer.
zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 272d
Me, I'm sticking with LibreWolf. If Mozilla collapses, I hope they can keep on going without them.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 272d
slacktoid@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 272d
Yes
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 271d
slacktoid@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 271d
I mean whenever anyone says I'm ditching Firefox for , I am genuinely confused. I doubt any of them can maybe except floorp or whichever is owned by an ad company.
onehundredsixtynine@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 268d
FriendBesto@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 119d
Yup.
If FF goes, then they have nothing. The best hope for now as an alternative option would be Ladybird, when it eventually comes out.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 272d
stefenauris@pawb.social · 6 pts · 272d
There are options if you want something like Firefox without the AI nonsense like waterfox and librewolf.
original_reader@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 272d
I feel the author. I loved Firefox. Then it went downhill and I used Vivaldi for years.
I stick to Firefox again (Floorp, to be precise, Zen browser when I want to chill) just for diversity's sake and I'm fine with that.
Still, I am sad that Vivaldi runs with Chromium at it's core.
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 272d
I enjoyed Vivaldi for a bit.
But the second time I opened it to find my tabs, browsing history, and literally all other user data, gone... Months apart, with thousands of saved bookmarks and hundreds of tabs lost each time.
I never went back. Deleting everything is just completely unacceptable.
I never found anyone else who'd had it happen, but twice was a pattern I didn't care to repeat.
zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 270d
From the article:
Could someone elaborate on this? Also
If she means the browser remembering the zoom levels on different pages, this can be done IIRC by disabling resist fingerprinting in about:config and then installing the canvas blocker addon which is not as good as RFP, but for me at least has been a good compromise privacy-wise.Out of date info! Have a look at this instead: https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/issues/1775
FriendBesto@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 266d
Always wanted to like Vivaldi. Like the aesthetic options but it always feels very bloated a browser. LibreWolf with uBlock can be enough to be highly useful and it feels leaner. I do miss the old Opera with the Presto engine, sigh.
beyond@linkage.ds8.zone · 1 pts · 268d
"AI" is whatever (it's a meaningless buzzword - some "AI features" I like and some I don't care about) but proprietary is a dealbreaker.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 268d
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 272d
i love firefox and librewolf but ive been using vivaldi more and more since their no ai stance combined with the fact theyre not a us company is really nice. you can also add adblock compatable filterlists to the built in tracker too. just wish they enabled extensions on mobile :(